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gleperlier
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ChessMaster XI : Questions

Post by gleperlier » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:40 pm

Hello,

What is the maximum tts (Hash size) and maximum Sel (selective search) we can set for CM XI for playing very long games like 180 minutes ?

Is there anyway to have TheKing use his tablebases using WB2UCI adapter on Chessbase GUI ? I think the response is no but if someone have found a way...

Best wishes,

Gabriel

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Re: ChessMaster XI : Questions

Post by Graham Banks » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:26 pm

gleperlier wrote:Hello,

What is the maximum tts (Hash size) and maximum Sel (selective search) we can set for CM XI for playing very long games like 180 minutes ?

Is there anyway to have TheKing use his tablebases using WB2UCI adapter on Chessbase GUI ? I think the response is no but if someone have found a way...

Best wishes,

Gabriel
Not sure about the maximum hash size, but will try to find out for you if somebody else can't answer.

As for selective search, how high were you thinking of going? I've seen some settings up around 28, but not sure as to the upper limit. Again, I'll try to find out.

Only way that tablebases can be used is in automatic adjudication by the GUI once a tablebase position is reached.
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Re: ChessMaster XI : Questions

Post by styx » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:26 am

it's just a guess, but i think the maximum hash size is only limited by your computer memory. here is a sample Wb2uci.eng file i am using for The King 3.5 (=512 MB hash). selective search can be adjusted between 0 and 16. if you use this configuration file, you can change the values in your GUI.
[OPTIONS]
; for dual or quad core just add /t2 or /t4 at the next line
Program=TheKing350_64.exe /t4
Protocol=1
InitString=cm_parm default\ncm_parm opk=123456
HashCommand=cm_parm tts=536870912 ttu=8
HashOnCommandline=false
InitTime=4
Ponder=false
;HashFormula=Hash*1048576
;Hash=64
ShowThinkingMove=false
Visible=Hash,Ponder,Logfile,Extras

[EXTRAS]
Kings Pawn (myp)=cm_parm myp=%i|spin|100|0|4500
Kings Knight (myn)=cm_parm myn=%i|spin|100|0|1500
Kings Bishop (myb)=cm_parm myb=%i|spin|100|0|1500
Kings Rook (myr)=cm_parm myr=%i|spin|100|0|900
Kings Queen (myq)=cm_parm myq=%i|spin|100|0|500
Opponents Pawn (opp)=cm_parm opp=%i|spin|100|0|4500
Opponents Knight (opn)=cm_parm opn=%i|spin|100|0|1500
Opponents Bishop (opb)=cm_parm opb=%i|spin|100|0|1500
Opponents Rook (opr)=cm_parm opr=%i|spin|100|0|900
Opponents Queen (opq)=cm_parm opq=%i|spin|100|0|500

Kings Center Control (mycc)=cm_parm mycc=%i|spin|100|0|600
Kings Mobility (mymob)=cm_parm mymob=%i|spin|100|0|600
Kings King Safety (myks)=cm_parm myks=%i|spin|100|0|600
Kings Passed Pawns (mypp)=cm_parm mypp=%i|spin|100|0|600
Kings Pawn Weakness (mypw)=cm_parm mypw=%i|spin|100|0|600
Opponents Center Control (opcc)=cm_parm opcc=%i|spin|100|0|600
Opponents Mobility (opmob)=cm_parm opmob=%i|spin|100|0|600
Opponents King Safety (opks)=cm_parm opks=%i|spin|100|0|600
Opponents Passed Pawns (oppp)=cm_parm oppp=%i|spin|100|0|600
Opponents Pawn Weakness (oppw)=cm_parm oppw=%i|spin|100|0|600

Attacker vs. Defender (avd)=cm_parm avd=%i|spin|0|-100|100
Strength of Play (sop)=cm_parm sop=%i|spin|100|0|100
Randomness of Play (rnd)=cm_parm rnd=%i|spin|0|0|100
Selective Search (sel)=cm_parm sel=%i|spin|14|0|16
Contempt for Draw (cfd)=cm_parm cfd=%i|spin|0|-500|500
Max Search Depth (md)=cm_parm md=%i|spin|99|0|999

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Re: My response to your second question !

Post by Sylwy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:59 am

gleperlier wrote:
Is there anyway to have TheKing use his tablebases using WB2UCI adapter on Chessbase GUI ? I think the response is no but if someone have found a way...

Best wishes,

Gabriel
Hello Gabriel !

As far as I know De Koning EDGB are used by Chessmaster GUIs ( coming from 9000) and NOT by The King engine. Any engine working on this GUI can use these TBs . But only inside Chessmaster GUI .
The King playing on Fritz , Shredder , ..... can be helped by these GUIs linked to Nalimov TBs in 3-6 men endgame mate positions.
Well , bitbases loaded into RAM ( like in Scorpio , Chiron , The Baron,Shredder , Fritz.......) used into search or Gaviota TBs used also in the search is another matter.

So , nothing to do with Wb2Uci. Like a bonus-information here : for any WinBoard chess engine (like The King) being able to access Nalimov TBs/Gaviota TBs/Scorpio bitbases....... this access is solved via the initialization file (.ini file or .cfg file, or.......) not via Wb2Uci. Wb2Uci is just a translator of the communication protocol instructions WinBoard to Unified Chess Interface !

Have a nice weekend !
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Re: My response to your second question !

Post by gleperlier » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:44 pm

Thanks all for your great advices !
will have a look this weekend and perhaps will post here some games for the fans ;)
Best wishes,
Gab

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Re: ChessMaster XI : Questions

Post by Martin Hudon » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:18 pm

gleperlier wrote:Hello,

What is the maximum tts (Hash size) and maximum Sel (selective search) we can set for CM XI for playing very long games like 180 minutes ?

Is there anyway to have TheKing use his tablebases using WB2UCI adapter on Chessbase GUI ? I think the response is no but if someone have found a way...

Best wishes,

Gabriel
Try here. This is the CM X1 forum
http://forums.ubi.com/forumdisplay.php/ ... smaster-11

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Re: ChessMaster XI : Questions

Post by gleperlier » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:43 pm

thank you Martin.

Gab

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Re: ChessMaster XI : Questions

Post by Uri » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:12 pm

Chessmaster is a weak chess engine, perhaps one of the weakest I know. I own Chessmaster 9000 and it plays terribly.

Houdini 2.0C and Deep Junior 13 are much much stronger engines than Chessmaster.

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Re: ChessMaster XI : Questions

Post by gleperlier » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:22 pm

Uri wrote:Chessmaster is a weak chess engine, perhaps one of the weakest I know. I own Chessmaster 9000 and it plays terribly.

Houdini 2.0C and Deep Junior 13 are much much stronger engines than Chessmaster.
Thanks I know but we are not dealing with strength but pleasure.

:wink:

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Re: ChessMaster XI : Questions

Post by Graham Banks » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:43 pm

gleperlier wrote:
Uri wrote:Chessmaster is a weak chess engine, perhaps one of the weakest I know. I own Chessmaster 9000 and it plays terribly.

Houdini 2.0C and Deep Junior 13 are much much stronger engines than Chessmaster.
Thanks I know but we are not dealing with strength but pleasure.

:wink:
Indeed - there is a place in our hobby for engines of all strengths.
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