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FriedmannC · Post by **FriedmannC** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:14 pm

Who knows what is the real strength of Cryptic and Thinker comparing to current top chess engines?
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/BayesianElo_ed18.htm
As you can see in the above link, last year Thinker 5.5 was very strong and also very close to Rybka! Since then I think there have been made considerable improvements so that Thinker could compete in any time against the top engines. I really hope we will see it commercial in the next future! It has an unique dynamic play which would make it a great tool for training if the analysing lines will finally be displayed! I really don't know too much about Cryptic. From what I heard is very strong, but always stays in the shadow. Is it possible to be released public and to compete in tournaments along side with the top chess engines? After all, what's the purpose of developing it constantly if no one has access to it, not even those who test the engines, making thus possible to see their strength on the chess rating lists? Regards!

Sylwy · Post by **Sylwy** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:25 pm

FriedmannC wrote:Who knows what is the real strength of Cryptic and Thinker comparing to current top chess engines?
http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/BayesianElo_ed18.htm
As you can see in the above link, last year Thinker 5.5 was very strong and also very close to Rybka! Since then I think there have been made considerable improvements so that Thinker could compete in any time against the top engines. I really hope we will see it commercial in the next future! It has an unique dynamic play which would make it a great tool for training if the analysing lines will finally be displayed! I really don't know too much about Cryptic. From what I heard is very strong, but always stays in the shadow. Is it possible to be released public and to compete in tournaments along side with the top chess engines? After all, what's the purpose of developing it constantly if no one has access to it, not even those who test the engines, making thus possible to see their strength on the chess rating lists? Regards!

Hello Herr Friedmann !

Nothing about Rick 48 ?

Banned/bored in Rybkaforum ?

All the best !

SilvianR

jdart · Post by **jdart** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:49 pm

Thinker plays regularly on chessclub.com and is very strong (it also has a very good book):

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Information about ChessThinkerX&#40;C&#41; &#40;Last disconnected Fri Feb 10 2012 23&#58;36&#41;&#58;

              rating &#91;need&#93; win  loss  draw total   best
Bullet          3095       3902   187   432  4521   3232 &#40;11-Feb-2006&#41; 
Blitz           3442       4610   308   711  5629   3717 &#40;08-Jan-2011&#41; 
Standard        3003       2610   128   386  3124   3070 &#40;07-Aug-2011&#41;

--Jon

tmokonen · Post by **tmokonen** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:56 pm

All I know about Cryptic is that it's written by Abdul Mateen Khan, who did programming on the Hydra project. Shark is another engine by him. I think Cryptic plays on the PlayChess server.

FriedmannC · Post by **FriedmannC** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:57 pm

Hi, thanks for the information! Can you provide a link to see Thinker's latest games? Or a PGN file would be awesome

gleperlier · Post by **gleperlier** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:40 pm

Yes Cryptic is playong Long Time Control games on Playchess and is doing fine.

jdart · Post by **jdart** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:02 pm

You have to be an ICC member to download games. But there are a few hundred Thinker games in my big game collection:

http://www.arasanchess.org/ccomp.zip

--Jon

alpha123 · Post by **alpha123** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:08 pm

The latest version is 5.56A and is +1 =6 -0 against Critter on ICC (TwistedLogicCCT is apparently currently running Critter instead of Hannibal).

FriedmannC · Post by **FriedmannC** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:12 pm

Thank you very much for the games!

I will watch them to see Thinker's strength and style of play!

FriedmannC · Post by **FriedmannC** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:13 pm

It seems Thinker is in TOP 3 engine list, if is that strong! Putting it on the market would be a success IMHO

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