Christian Berliner banned
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Re: Christian Berliner banned
I am against the ban. When a group bans one of its members, the whole group loses and fails. Support the suspension as a means to warn and educate.
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Re: Christian Berliner banned
The group did not lose anything, but gained. He was a pedantic troll, who respected no one, and felt entitled to start threads calling the moderators "fools". The moderators are not here to educate.Carlos Ylich wrote:I am against the ban. When a group bans one of its members, the whole group loses and fails. Support the suspension as a means to warn and educate.
The forum is better off without such 'members'.
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He'll be back. It's always the same...just a different dress.Roger Brown wrote:Hello All,
Christian Berliner has been sent on a brief break.
As I am sure that there will be all sorts of commentary unsupported by facts, I will only say that I did contact Christian Berliner by e-mail and sought to have him post appropriately.
This is the result.
Yes, there have been a number of complaints about his posts but do not let that stop you from going at it.
Seconds to go now....
Later.
Terry McCracken
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Re: Christian Berliner banned
I disagree. All societies have tools to ban the elements that shake their stability. For example prisons or lunatic asylums. Talkchess just bans.Carlos Ylich wrote:I am against the ban. When a group bans one of its members, the whole group loses and fails. Support the suspension as a means to warn and educate.
We can't just accept that anyone can come and troll a specialized forum. Because yes, Talkchess is specialized: it's about computer chess. Anything else is of topic and will only be tolerated if correct. And banned if not.
Besides, when you register a forum you agree with its rule. And you don't register to a forum to destroy or damage it. A forum is a society. Either respect this society or leave it.
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Re: Christian Berliner banned
+1JuLieN wrote:I disagree. All societies have tools to ban the elements that shake their stability. For example prisons or lunatic asylums. Talkchess just bans.Carlos Ylich wrote:I am against the ban. When a group bans one of its members, the whole group loses and fails. Support the suspension as a means to warn and educate.
We can't just accept that anyone can come and troll a specialized forum. Because yes, Talkchess is specialized: it's about computer chess. Anything else is of topic and will only be tolerated if correct. And banned if not.
Besides, when you register a forum you agree with its rule. And you don't register to a forum to destroy or damage it. A forum is a society. Either respect this society or leave it.
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Your statement reads like a scripted cliche. They get repeated enough time that people just start believing it without any sort of critical thinking and then they start repeating it and so on.Carlos Ylich wrote:I am against the ban. When a group bans one of its members, the whole group loses and fails. Support the suspension as a means to warn and educate.
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Albert Silver wrote:The group did not lose anything, but gained. He was a pedantic troll, who respected no one, and felt entitled to start threads calling the moderators "fools". The moderators are not here to educate.Carlos Ylich wrote:I am against the ban. When a group bans one of its members, the whole group loses and fails. Support the suspension as a means to warn and educate.
The forum is better off without such 'members'.
And the owners live the truth!!!
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Exactly! I almost launched into a lecture on this but you did it so much nicer than I could have with much less words.JuLieN wrote:I disagree. All societies have tools to ban the elements that shake their stability. For example prisons or lunatic asylums. Talkchess just bans.Carlos Ylich wrote:I am against the ban. When a group bans one of its members, the whole group loses and fails. Support the suspension as a means to warn and educate.
We can't just accept that anyone can come and troll a specialized forum. Because yes, Talkchess is specialized: it's about computer chess. Anything else is of topic and will only be tolerated if correct. And banned if not.
Besides, when you register a forum you agree with its rule. And you don't register to a forum to destroy or damage it. A forum is a society. Either respect this society or leave it.
I do believe that banning should be a last resort because in my opinion this was not even controversial, it was the right thing without question.
The analogy I want to use is a medical operation. All operations where you cut the body are intrusive and hard on the body, in fact they generally use intrusive operations as a last resort. But that doesn't mean you should never get an operation or remove the "cancer" that is diminished the entire rest of the body. You do what is best.
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Is this supposed to be one of those "this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs..." commercials???Carlos Ylich wrote:Albert Silver wrote:The group did not lose anything, but gained. He was a pedantic troll, who respected no one, and felt entitled to start threads calling the moderators "fools". The moderators are not here to educate.Carlos Ylich wrote:I am against the ban. When a group bans one of its members, the whole group loses and fails. Support the suspension as a means to warn and educate.
The forum is better off without such 'members'.
And the owners live the truth!!!
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Re: Christian Berliner banned
+2 trollfestAndres Valverde wrote:+1Steve B wrote:Of course a justified move by the moderators
the man was on a posting rampage for two days now undoubtedly fueled by Alcohol
Off The Wagon Regards
Steve