Cooking The Opening Book with Stockfish

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Re: Cooking The Opening Book with Stockfish

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Re: Cooking The Opening Book with Stockfish

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zullil wrote:

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Maybe Dweeb will find an improvement.
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Re: Cooking The Opening Book with Stockfish

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Don wrote:
zullil wrote:

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Maybe Dweeb will find an improvement.
My mistake, I didn't mean "Dweeb", I meant "Deeb" - I laughed when I saw what I had done by mistake. Wael Deeb is not a very common name where I come from.
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Re: Cooking The Opening Book with Stockfish

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Don wrote:
zullil wrote:

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Maybe Dweeb will find an improvement.
I don't think that typing Dweeb is a typo that can be wriitten in a hurry and INTENTIONALLY....

Insulting me is beyond my logical thinking right now as I see no reason what so ever to do that....

Considering your long history of rude expressions and insults toward other members of this forum,I am not so stunned after all.....

The question is:why idiotic people insult others without an obvious reason,why :!: :?:
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Re: Cooking The Opening Book with Stockfish

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Don wrote:
Don wrote:
zullil wrote:

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Maybe Dweeb will find an improvement.
My mistake, I didn't mean "Dweeb", I meant "Deeb" - I laughed when I saw what I had done by mistake. Wael Deeb is not a very common name where I come from.
I don't buy that....you have 15 minutes to edit your post.....
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Re: Cooking The Opening Book with Stockfish

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Don wrote:
zullil wrote:

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Maybe Dweeb will find an improvement.
I don't think that typing Dweeb is a typo that can be wriitten in a hurry and INTENTIONALLY....

Insulting me is beyond my logical thinking right now as I see no reason what so ever to do that....

Considering your long history of rude expressions and insults toward other members of this forum,I am not so stunned after all.....

The question is:why idiotic people insult others without an obvious reason,why :!: :?:
A 'w' is not likely to be typed by mistake ordinarily, but not for me in this case. I often make up shortcuts to help me remember peoples names, especially ones that are difficult for me such as foreign names and your shortcut for me is "dweeb" and it's NOT meant to be derogatory. I don't have a bad opinion of you anyway, so I would not purposely insult you out of the blue. I might insult you in the middle of a very heated argument and then feel bad about it but that is not the case here.
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Re: Cooking The Opening Book with Stockfish

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Don wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Don wrote:
zullil wrote:

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Maybe Dweeb will find an improvement.
I don't think that typing Dweeb is a typo that can be wriitten in a hurry and INTENTIONALLY....

Insulting me is beyond my logical thinking right now as I see no reason what so ever to do that....

Considering your long history of rude expressions and insults toward other members of this forum,I am not so stunned after all.....

The question is:why idiotic people insult others without an obvious reason,why :!: :?:
A 'w' is not likely to be typed by mistake ordinarily, but not for me in this case. I often make up shortcuts to help me remember peoples names, especially ones that are difficult for me such as foreign names and your shortcut for me is "dweeb" and it's NOT meant to be derogatory. I don't have a bad opinion of you anyway, so I would not purposely insult you out of the blue. I might insult you in the middle of a very heated argument and then feel bad about it but that is not the case here.
I'd change the shortcut. :lol:
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Re: Cooking The Opening Book with Stockfish

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Don wrote:
Robert Flesher wrote:
Don wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
AdminX wrote:Very nice find! :wink:
What find :!: :?:

It's a combinational move against an already lost black position....

I define a "find" when you discover a new move in an already established opening line which improves the chances of one of the two armies....

In an already destroyed position is not a novelty,it's a winning move
Dr.D
Is this position a loss for black if white does not play Nxe6? The answer to whether this is a real find hinges on that in my opinion. If Nxe6 is just another way to win then it's not that interesting.

What would make it a find is if there is no other clear win and the fact that Nxe6 had not been discovered.

Bxb5!? most likely wins as well.
I don't think Bxb5 is as good based on Komodo analysis. I followed both Re1 and Bb5 for several moves and Re1 is the only one that tries to win from what I am seeing.

But one caution here is that any given program may have systematic error and you cannot completely go by the score. For example in the same position one program thinks white has a small advantage, another gives it half a pawn or more. Even the SAME program may over or under evaluate any given position but I trust Komodo's as much as any in a random position and I don't really even trust Komodo.

What you have to do is try to play out the most important lines until it becomes more clear. Usually one side will gradually start increasing, or you will see the score start to peter out towards zero.

After some analysis, Bxb5 !!??. However, look at this crazy line.


1. Bxb5 axb5 2. Rde1 Qc5 3. Rhf1 e5 4. Nb3 Qb4 5. Rf4 Qd6 6. Rd4 Qb6 7. Rxe5+
Nxe5 8. Rd8+ Qxd8 9. Bxd8



[d]rn1Bkb1r/1b3p1p/6p1/1p2n3/7Q/1NN5/PPP3PP/2K5 b kq - 0 9
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Re: Cooking The Opening Book with Stockfish

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Terry McCracken wrote:
Don wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Don wrote:
zullil wrote:

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Maybe Dweeb will find an improvement.
I don't think that typing Dweeb is a typo that can be wriitten in a hurry and INTENTIONALLY....

Insulting me is beyond my logical thinking right now as I see no reason what so ever to do that....

Considering your long history of rude expressions and insults toward other members of this forum,I am not so stunned after all.....

The question is:why idiotic people insult others without an obvious reason,why :!: :?:
A 'w' is not likely to be typed by mistake ordinarily, but not for me in this case. I often make up shortcuts to help me remember peoples names, especially ones that are difficult for me such as foreign names and your shortcut for me is "dweeb" and it's NOT meant to be derogatory. I don't have a bad opinion of you anyway, so I would not purposely insult you out of the blue. I might insult you in the middle of a very heated argument and then feel bad about it but that is not the case here.
I'd change the shortcut. :lol:
It was not supposed to mean anything except to me. Some of my shortcuts are so internalized that they could not even be explained in a way that makes sense.

Anyway, I think I need someone else to take the white side of that position. Who wants to try to make a win for white?
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Re: Cooking The Opening Book with Stockfish

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Don wrote:
Anyway, I think I need someone else to take the white side of that position. Who wants to try to make a win for white?
You said 14. Re1 Qd6 right? What about 15. Bxb5 now?