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Re: ProDeo 1.7 official now

Post by Rebel » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:42 pm

Frank Quisinsky wrote:Program = prodeo.exe w5 ProDeo2.eng
is correct?
Hi Frank,

Better use:

Program = prodeo.exe w5 ProDeo.eng

Rest is OK.

Best to you,

Ed

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Re: ProDeo 1.7 official now

Post by Frank Quisinsky » Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:03 pm

Hello Ed,

OK, changed and restarted again.
Now all is fine :-)

THANKS!

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Re: ProDeo 1.7 official now

Post by fern » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:01 pm

Nostalgia?
NO
It was better for me in terms of features and design.
If I say the Parthenon is a magnificent building, is that nostalgia?

Archaeological regards
Fern

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Re: ProDeo 1.7 official now

Post by pilgrimdan » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:39 pm

thanks Ed for the update...

keep up the good work...

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Re: ProDeo 1.7 official now

Post by Carlos Ylich » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:12 am

fern wrote:I hope that this effort of yours to tune up Pro Deo 1.6 is just the beginning of a reborn interest in chess programming and that, after a while, you will come back in strength with new engines so innovative as your rebel was in the 90's, including the GUI you used then, which I still prefer to any other.

In the meantime, thanks
Fern
Dear Ed

I agree with everything. :D

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Re: ProDeo 1.7 official now

Post by David Dahlem » Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:53 am

Rebel wrote:Franky boy :) got me be surprise yesterday with the not announced ProDeo 1.7 page but now it's official.

http://www.top-5000.nl/prodeo17.htm

Make sure you get the 1.71 personalities.
Does Prodeo have a built-in benchmark test? I want to try to create a personality and need a quick way to compare different versions, preferably in console mode. Is there a list of commands that Prodeo will accept in console mode?

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Re: ProDeo 1.7 official now

Post by Rebel » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:13 am

David Dahlem wrote: Does Prodeo have a built-in benchmark test? I want to try to create a personality and need a quick way to compare different versions, preferably in console mode. Is there a list of commands that Prodeo will accept in console mode?
There is nothing of that, just winboard commands.

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Re: ProDeo 1.7 official now

Post by Werner » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:18 am

Hi Ed,
I wonder, why ProDeo plays Ke7 in this position (and lost soon) ?
[D]8/8/5k1p/p1pp4/3p2P1/PP1P1K2/2P5/8 b - -

I found no other engine suggesting this move.
I did a few parameter experiments and found:
[Right to Move = 50] * was #75 helps here - same with personality prodeo2 [Right to Move = 0]
What does this parameter in such an endgame position?

What about including egbbs or tbs ?

thanks for the new version!

best wishes
Werner

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Re: ProDeo 1.7 official now

Post by Frank Quisinsky » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:38 am

Hi Ed,

here an other good example:
KBR - KR
Prodeo lost this endgame.
Should be clearly remis!

I think that ProDeo need endgame databases, like Gaviotabases. Could be an order for yourself if you have interest and time for it.

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[Event "SWCR-32, 40/10, ponder=on, Q9550 OM"]
[Site "Trier"]
[Date "2011.11.02"]
[Round "1.19"]
[White "ProDeo 1.7 Pers. 1.71a w32"]
[Black "Zarkov 6.44 w32"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E92"]
[PlyCount "342"]
[EventDate "2011.??.??"]
[SourceDate "2011.10.26"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. h3 e5 7. d5 a5 8. Bg5 Na6
9. Be2 Nc5 10. Nd2 Bd7 11. O-O Qb8 12. Qc2 Nh5 13. Bxh5 gxh5 14. Be3 Qe8 15.
Bxc5 dxc5 16. Nf3 Qd8 17. Qb3 b6 18. Rfd1 a4 19. Qc2 Qf6 20. Rd3 Rfc8 21. Rad1
Bf8 22. Qd2 Bd6 23. Nh2 h4 24. Qe3 Kh8 25. Qf3 Qg6 26. Ng4 f5 27. Ne3 f4 28.
Nc2 Rg8 29. Nb5 Be8 30. Ne1 Bxb5 31. cxb5 Ra5 32. Rc3 Rxb5 33. Nd3 Ra5 34. Rdc1
Raa8 35. Ne1 b5 36. b3 axb3 37. axb3 Ra3 38. Kh1 Rg7 39. Kg1 Qg5 40. Nc2 Ra8
41. Ne1 Rg6 42. Nd3 Rag8 43. Ne1 Qe7 44. Rd3 Qd7 45. Kf1 Qc8 46. Ra1 c6 47. Qh5
c4 48. bxc4 bxc4 49. Ra7 R8g7 50. Rxg7 Rxg7 51. Rd1 c3 52. Qxh4 Rg6 53. Qh5
cxd5 54. Rxd5 Qc7 55. Qd1 Kg7 56. Qb3 Be7 57. Qa4 Re6 58. Rd7 Qc8 59. Qa7 Qc4+
60. Kg1 Kf6 61. Qa8 Qc6 62. Rb7 Qxe4 63. Nf3 c2 64. Qh8+ Kg6 65. Qg8+ Kf6 66.
Rc7 Qg6 67. Qh8+ Qg7 68. Qa8 Qg6 69. Nh4 Qd3 70. Qh8+ Kf7 71. Nf3 Qf5 72. Kh2
h6 73. Rc8 Qe4 74. Nh4 Rd6 75. f3 Qd3 76. Qe8+ Kf6 77. Rc7 Re6 78. Qg8 c1=Q 79.
Rxc1 Rd6 80. Ra1 Rd8 81. Ra6+ Rd6 82. Ra7 Rd8 83. Qg4 Qh7 84. Qh5 Rd6 85. Rb7
Re6 86. Rc7 Ra6 87. Rc4 Bd6 88. Rc3 Bb4 89. Rc8 Re6 90. Ra8 Bd6 91. Ra7 Re7 92.
Ra4 Re6 93. Ra5 Bb4 94. Ra7 Re7 95. Ra1 Bd6 96. Ra6 Re6 97. Rb6 Bc5 98. Rb8 Bd6
99. Rb5 Re7 100. Ra5 Re6 101. Ra8 Bc5 102. Rd8 Bd6 103. Qg4 h5 104. Qg8 Qxg8
105. Rxg8 Bb4 106. Rg6+ Kf7 107. Rg5 Be1 108. Rxh5 Bf2 109. Rh7+ Kg8 110. Rh5
Kg7 111. g4 fxg3+ 112. Kg2 Re8 113. Rg5+ Kh6 114. Rg6+ Kh5 115. Rg4 Rf8 116.
Ng6 Re8 117. f4 exf4 118. Nxf4+ Kh6 119. Rg6+ Kh7 120. Rg5 Rb8 121. Rh5+ Kg7
122. Rd5 Rb2 123. Rd3 Kh6 124. Kf3 Rc2 125. Ne2 g2 126. Kxg2 Rxe2 127. Kf3 Rc2
128. Rd5 Bh4 129. Rd1 Rc3+ 130. Kg2 Rg3+ 131. Kh2 Rf3 132. Rd4 Kg5 133. Rg4+
Kh5 134. Ra4 Rf2+ 135. Kg1 Rd2 136. Rc4 Bd8 137. Kh1 Bb6 138. Re4 Kg5 139. Re7
Bf2 140. Re4 Kf5 141. Rg4 Be3 142. Ra4 Bd4 143. Ra8 Ke4 144. Rf8 Bc5 145. Rf1
Be3 146. h4 Rc2 147. h5 Rd2 148. h6 Bxh6 149. Rg1 Bf4 150. Rg2 Rd1+ 151. Rg1
Rd3 152. Re1+ Kf3 153. Rf1+ Kg3 154. Rg1+ Kh3 155. Rf1 Rd2 156. Rf3+ Kg4 157.
Rb3 Re2 158. Ra3 Be3 159. Ra2 Re1+ 160. Kg2 Rg1+ 161. Kh2 Kf3 162. Kh3 Bc1 163.
Rc2 Bf4 164. Rc3+ Be3 165. Rxe3+ Kxe3 166. Kh4 Kf4 167. Kh5 Rg2 168. Kh6 Kf5
169. Kh7 Kf6 170. Kh8 Kf7 171. Kh7 Rh2# 0-1
Thanks again for your engine. Nice to have it, nice to see Rebel again. I like it. Nice playing style in the middlegame, very strong in the first move after the opening and in the middlegame.

Best
Frank
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Re: ProDeo 1.7 official now

Post by Sylwy » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:55 am

Frank Quisinsky wrote:Hi Ed,

here an other good example:
KBR - KR
Prodeo lost this endgame.
Should be clearly remis!

I think that ProDeo need endgame databases, like Gaviotabases. Could be an order for yourself if you have interest and time for it.

Hi !

I think ProDeo (like Rebel) has a sort of egbbs built-in . But only 4 men ! Of course , they are used in search. Will be nice to see Gaviota TBs access under ProDeo !
And yes , ProDeo has a nice middlegame play !
Thank you Mr. Ed Schröder for Rebel ( and its continuation - ProDeo ) project ! Nice to see the computer chess history acting under your eyes !

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