Excuse me - please - to disturb you from the very important Fruit-Rybka-Ippo-Ivan-Fire-Critter & Co. scandals , demonstrations , case trials , lawsuits , divorce suits , remorses & so on !
If you are interested here's the source code of a 33 years old chess program:
Byte Chess 0.5 written by Peter Frey and Larry Atkin:
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http://www.moorecad.com/standardpascal/Chess05.pas
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Written in Pascal ( maybe the first chess program in Pascal).
Mr.Larry Atkin enjoying for you:
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Have a nice day , evening and night !
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Re: Missing from Computer-Chess Wiki
If you mean the chess programming wiki, Chess 0.5 by Larry Atkin and Peter W. Frey is already mentioned at several places, and that is was the initial source of the Austrian Merlin. A separate page will follow at some time. If someone likes to write an article, welcome.
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Re: Missing from Computer-Chess Wiki
Gerd Isenberg wrote:If you mean the chess programming wiki, Chess 0.5 by Larry Atkin and Peter W. Frey is already mentioned at several places, and that is was the initial source of the Austrian Merlin. A separate page will follow at some time. If someone likes to write an article, welcome.
Gerd
Hi Mr.Gerd Isenberg !
I'm honoured !
No , chessprograming wiki has mentioned Chess 0.5 . My title it's about "Computer-Chess Wiki" of Mr. Ron Murawski - c'est ma faiblesse !
BTW , I like to play every week a game with Isichess !
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Re: Missing from Computer-Chess Wiki
Ok sorry, Sylwy. But no need to get honoredSylwy wrote:Gerd Isenberg wrote:If you mean the chess programming wiki, Chess 0.5 by Larry Atkin and Peter W. Frey is already mentioned at several places, and that is was the initial source of the Austrian Merlin. A separate page will follow at some time. If someone likes to write an article, welcome.
Gerd
Hi Mr.Gerd Isenberg !
I'm honoured !
No , chessprograming wiki has mentioned Chess 0.5 . My title it's about "Computer-Chess Wiki" of Mr. Ron Murawski - c'est ma faiblesse !
BTW , I like to play every week a game with Isichess !
Regards,
SilvianR
Regards,
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Re: Missing from Computer-Chess Wiki
and here how larry's program came into a commercial dedicated chess computer:
steinitz
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/in ... itz_Encore
see also:
http://www.great-game-machine.com/
i was doing a little tournament with all those fossil dedicated chess computers,
larry atkins and richard langs machines are doing quite well,
as you can see here:
http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php ... tart=10%22
hanimex is an 8 bit dedicated chess computer with richard langs cyrus software into it. on a z80A cpu.
steinitz is also 8 bit, 4 mhz but 6502 cpu with larry atkins chess software
running on it.
steinitz
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/in ... itz_Encore
see also:
http://www.great-game-machine.com/
i was doing a little tournament with all those fossil dedicated chess computers,
larry atkins and richard langs machines are doing quite well,
as you can see here:
http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php ... tart=10%22
hanimex is an 8 bit dedicated chess computer with richard langs cyrus software into it. on a z80A cpu.
steinitz is also 8 bit, 4 mhz but 6502 cpu with larry atkins chess software
running on it.
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Re: Missing from Computer-Chess Wiki
Richard Lang produced remarkably strong programs, considering the hardware they were running on. For instance, I am impressed by the strength of my Saïtek Kasparov Turbo King (above 1800) despite it runs on a 8-bits 6502 CPU running at 5MHz!mclane wrote:and here how larry's program came into a commercial dedicated chess computer:
steinitz
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/in ... itz_Encore
see also:
http://www.great-game-machine.com/
i was doing a little tournament with all those fossil dedicated chess computers,
larry atkins and richard langs machines are doing quite well,
as you can see here:
http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php ... tart=10%22
hanimex is an 8 bit dedicated chess computer with richard langs cyrus software into it. on a z80A cpu.
If I could make my engine run on so little memory and frequency, I doubt it would be above... say... 1300...
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Re: Missing from Computer-Chess Wiki
Ed Schroeder was the master of the 8 bit 6502 processorJuLieN wrote:Richard Lang produced remarkably strong programs, considering the hardware they were running on. For instance, I am impressed by the strength of my Saïtek Kasparov Turbo King (above 1800) despite it runs on a 8-bits 6502 CPU running at 5MHz!mclane wrote:and here how larry's program came into a commercial dedicated chess computer:
steinitz
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/in ... itz_Encore
see also:
http://www.great-game-machine.com/
i was doing a little tournament with all those fossil dedicated chess computers,
larry atkins and richard langs machines are doing quite well,
as you can see here:
http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php ... tart=10%22
hanimex is an 8 bit dedicated chess computer with richard langs cyrus software into it. on a z80A cpu.
If I could make my engine run on so little memory and frequency, I doubt it would be above... say... 1300...
his Polgar 5 Mhz tipped the rating scales at 1963 with the Polgar 10 Mhz shattering the 2000 glass ceiling at 2036
i think only the Mephisto mm6 (Morsch) came close to these babies
Lang was chosen by Mephisto to work with the Motorola processor and so he had much more powerful hardware to work with while Ed was given the 8 bit 6502 by Mephisto
year over year Ed would produce the strongest 8 bit model money could buy..some years the strongest portable computer you could buy(I.E.his Rebel 3.0 in the Mephisto Mobile hand held board)
Still ..both Lang and Schroeder were LEGENDS in their day
Those Were The Days Regards
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Re: Missing from Computer-Chess Wiki
I have a long time fantasy of programming a virtual chess computer with an emulated 6502 running at 5MHz and a total memory of 64Kb, split between the ROM's size and the RAM. It would be free and anyone could program his own rom in 6502 asm. This virtual chess computer would be like a chess interface, with special registers to access its virtual hardware (sensory board, LEDs, etc...). Why not adding a tourney manager to automatize the "engines" ranking, an asm editor with syntax highlighting, and an integrated assembler.Steve B wrote:Ed Schroeder was the master of the 8 bit 6502 processorJuLieN wrote:Richard Lang produced remarkably strong programs, considering the hardware they were running on. For instance, I am impressed by the strength of my Saïtek Kasparov Turbo King (above 1800) despite it runs on a 8-bits 6502 CPU running at 5MHz!mclane wrote:and here how larry's program came into a commercial dedicated chess computer:
steinitz
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/in ... itz_Encore
see also:
http://www.great-game-machine.com/
i was doing a little tournament with all those fossil dedicated chess computers,
larry atkins and richard langs machines are doing quite well,
as you can see here:
http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php ... tart=10%22
hanimex is an 8 bit dedicated chess computer with richard langs cyrus software into it. on a z80A cpu.
If I could make my engine run on so little memory and frequency, I doubt it would be above... say... 1300...
his Polgar 5 Mhz tipped the rating scales at 1963 with the Polgar 10 Mhz shattering the 2000 glass ceiling at 2036
i think only the Mephisto mm6 (Morsch) came close to these babies
Lang was chosen by Mephisto to work with the Motorola processor and so he had much more powerful hardware to work with while Ed was given the 8 bit 6502 by Mephisto
year after year Ed would produce the strongest 8 bit model you could buy..some years the strongest portable computer you could but(I.E.his Rebel 3.0 in the Mephisto Mobile hand held board)
Still both Lang and Schroeder were LEGENDS in their day
Those Were The Days Regards
Steve
The "game" would be to push this crude architecture to its maximum and see who manage to get the most out of it. Everyone would have the exact same hardware, that way. What do you think?
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Re: Missing from Computer-Chess Wiki
sounds like a great programming exercise of which sadly i know little aboutJuLieN wrote:I have a long time fantasy of programming a virtual chess computer with an emulated 6502 running at 5MHz and a total memory of 64Kb, split between the ROM's size and the RAM. It would be free and anyone could program his own rom in 6502 asm. This virtual chess computer would be like a chess interface, with special registers to access its virtual hardware (sensory board, LEDs, etc...). Why not adding a tourney manager to automatize the "engines" ranking, an asm editor with syntax highlighting, and an integrated assembler.Steve B wrote:Ed Schroeder was the master of the 8 bit 6502 processorJuLieN wrote:Richard Lang produced remarkably strong programs, considering the hardware they were running on. For instance, I am impressed by the strength of my Saïtek Kasparov Turbo King (above 1800) despite it runs on a 8-bits 6502 CPU running at 5MHz!mclane wrote:and here how larry's program came into a commercial dedicated chess computer:
steinitz
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/in ... itz_Encore
see also:
http://www.great-game-machine.com/
i was doing a little tournament with all those fossil dedicated chess computers,
larry atkins and richard langs machines are doing quite well,
as you can see here:
http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php ... tart=10%22
hanimex is an 8 bit dedicated chess computer with richard langs cyrus software into it. on a z80A cpu.
If I could make my engine run on so little memory and frequency, I doubt it would be above... say... 1300...
his Polgar 5 Mhz tipped the rating scales at 1963 with the Polgar 10 Mhz shattering the 2000 glass ceiling at 2036
i think only the Mephisto mm6 (Morsch) came close to these babies
Lang was chosen by Mephisto to work with the Motorola processor and so he had much more powerful hardware to work with while Ed was given the 8 bit 6502 by Mephisto
year after year Ed would produce the strongest 8 bit model you could buy..some years the strongest portable computer you could but(I.E.his Rebel 3.0 in the Mephisto Mobile hand held board)
Still both Lang and Schroeder were LEGENDS in their day
Those Were The Days Regards
Steve
The "game" would be to push this crude architecture to its maximum and see who manage to get the most out of it. Everyone would have the exact same hardware, that way. What do you think?
i do have emulations for most of Langs WC programs, a few of Ed's Programs and even a couple of Kittingers
the emulations were made for use in the Phoenix series of dedicated chess computers
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@N ... 2195096455
i think there are also emulations available for use in normal PC's (not by Phoenix)but i have no interest in that( of course)
speed-ups achieved from the original computers generally are 4X for the 6502 and 68000 Programs about 2x for the 68020 programs
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Thanks. I was not aware Atkin was author of dedicated machines. I guess the source of the Chafitz Steinitz Encore was not the Pascal program Chess 0.5 by Larry Atkin and Peter W. Frey. Probably an 6502 assembly port. Was he also the author of the Gruenfeld/Morphy/Capablanca? The ICGA tournament page (Commercial) of the 2nd WMCCC 1981 Travemünde provides no author nor country.mclane wrote:and here how larry's program came into a commercial dedicated chess computer:
steinitz
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/in ... itz_Encore
see also:
http://www.great-game-machine.com/
i was doing a little tournament with all those fossil dedicated chess computers,
larry atkins and richard langs machines are doing quite well,
as you can see here:
http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php ... tart=10%22
hanimex is an 8 bit dedicated chess computer with richard langs cyrus software into it. on a z80A cpu.
steinitz is also 8 bit, 4 mhz but 6502 cpu with larry atkins chess software
running on it.
Gerd