My two cents on Rybka's disqualification

[bob]

http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php ... fast#p7024

From BB+ talking about Rajlich ...

"As I've said before, I think modern testing methods (at ultra-fast time controls) is one of his major innovations. "

Sounds like Bob needs to rewrite that post for BB+, as clearly Bob invented it. OMG did BB+ made a mistake??!!

Congratulations to you and Hiarcs on your 2008 WC title.

yls.

You need to learn to read. "ultra-fast time controls" has _zero_ to do with cluster testing. I don't use "ultra-fast time controls" on my cluster testing most of the time, because I can run 256 games at a time. You have mangled this badly.

[Harvey Williamson]

http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php ... fast#p7024

From BB+ talking about Rajlich ...

"As I've said before, I think modern testing methods (at ultra-fast time controls) is one of his major innovations. "

Sounds like Bob needs to rewrite that post for BB+, as clearly Bob invented it. OMG did BB+ made a mistake??!!

Congratulations to you and Hiarcs on your 2008 WC title.

yls.

As far as I know these tests were not run on the Cluster.

[bob]

Bob is the pioneer of the computer chess

Agreed.

and a person I highly respect.

That used to be the case on my part.

Stop that utter nonsense!

What nonsense? We are seeing very un-Christian bevhavior here, my apologies if that does not mean anything to you.

Seeking the truth is "un-Christian"? What bible do you read, by the way???

[garybelton]

I don't use "ultra-fast time controls" on my cluster testing most of the time

Those times that you did use it, where did you get the idea from? Be honest.

[garybelton]

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/

Where is the love?

[bob]

I don't use "ultra-fast time controls" on my cluster testing most of the time

Those times that you did use it, where did you get the idea from? Be honest.

Once again, I do not use ultra-fast time controls on my cluster testing. That is the _point_ of using a cluster. I can play longer games, and still finish faster than when using ultra-fast time controls on a single box.

The only time I use ultra-fast time controls is for "stress testing" where I want to make sure that the "edge conditions" in crafty are safe. I can't allow myself to reach a point where there is exactly zero (or less) time left to make a move, the search will break. I have to check for moves more frequently with fast move target times. Etc.

Vas was playing a game in a second or two. My testing is usually done at a move very second or so.

Now, is there still any lack of clarity in what I do? You are the one that mangled BB's statement badly. But for the record, others have used fast time controls well prior to Rybka. Most commercial programmers used to have a dozen or so machines playing games 24/7, even dating back to the days of Rebel. You might ask Ed what kind of time controls he used for fast games and if he somehow got that idea from Vas, 20 years before Vas wrote his first chess program...

[garybelton]

Agreed. But to redress the balance we have seen a big personal attack on a person that raised the chess bar by +300 elo. As a chess consumer I like to see a little balance.

[bob]

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/

Where is the love?

Where is the "un-Christian behaviour"?

[garybelton]

But for the record, others have used fast time controls well prior to Rybka.

In that case BB+'s statement was completely incorrect. My apologies for relying on it,

[garybelton]

Matthew 6:14-15