Test position for any non commercials rated under 3400elo

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Test position for any non commercials rated under 3400elo

Post by kgburcham » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:05 am

[D] 2r2k2/3bn2r/q2p4/1p1PppB1/1P1bP3/5Q1P/4B2R/3N1R1K w - - 0 1

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Re: Test position for any non commercials rated under 3400el

Post by Kurt Utzinger » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:59 am

kgburcham wrote:[D] 2r2k2/3bn2r/q2p4/1p1PppB1/1P1bP3/5Q1P/4B2R/3N1R1K w - - 0 1
It would be much appreciated if the solution is mentioned in your posting.
Kurt

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Re: Test position for any non commercials rated under 3400el

Post by GARGAMEL » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:36 am

Hi Kurt

I think the best move is Dg3!!

regards Anton

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Re: Test position for any non commercials rated under 3400el

Post by zullil » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:55 am

GARGAMEL wrote:Hi Kurt

I think the best move is Dg3!!

regards Anton
Stockfish-1.9.1 (8 threads) agrees:

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Searching: 2r2k2/3bn2r/q2p4/1p1PppB1/1P1bP3/5Q1P/4B2R/3N1R1K w - -
infinite: 1 ponder: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0
 2     -1.09   00:00     1740 Ne3 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 
 2     -0.77   00:00     1984 Be3 Rc2 Bxd4 exd4 
 3     -0.77   00:00     2242 Be3 Rc2 Bxd4 exd4 
 4     -0.97   00:00     4937 Be3 Bxe3 Nxe3 f4 Rg1 
 5     -1.21   00:00     7155 Be3 Bxe3 Nxe3 f4 Bd3 Rg7 
 5     -0.97   00:00     8509 exf5 Nxf5 Bd3 Rf7 Ne3 
 6  >  -0.85   00:00    10781 exf5 Nxf5 Bd3 Rf7 Ne3 
 6  >  -0.73   00:00    11880 exf5 Nxf5 Bd3 Rf7 Ne3 
 6  >  -0.48   00:00    12865 exf5 Nxf5 Bd3 Rf7 Ne3 
 6  >  +0.00   00:00    14757 exf5 Nxf5 Bd3 Rf7 Ne3 
 6     +0.16   00:00    16693 exf5 Nxf5 Bd3 Rf7 Ne3 Bxe3 Bxe3 
 7     +0.08   00:00    22588 exf5 Nxf5 Bd3 Rf7 Ne3 Bxe3 Bxe3 Qa3 
 8  <  -0.57   00&#58;00    35596 exf5 Nxf5 Bd3 Rf7 Ne3 Bxe3 Bxe3 e4 Bxe4 Ng3+ 
 8     -0.32   00&#58;00   224061 h4 Ra8 exf5 Nxf5 Ne3 Rf7 Qg4 Bxe3 Bxe3 Qb7 Qf3 
 9     -0.36   00&#58;00   406404 h4 Qa4 exf5 Nxf5 Qg4 Rf7 Ne3 Bxe3 Bxe3 Rc3 Bh6+ 
                              Nxh6 Rxf7+ Nxf7 Qxd7 
10  >  -0.12   00&#58;00   595973 h4 Qa4 Bd3 Qxb4 exf5 Rf7 f6 
10  >  +0.12   00&#58;00   616789 h4 Qa4 Bd3 Qxb4 exf5 Rf7 f6 
10     +0.16   00&#58;00   940351 h4 Qa4 Qg3 Ng8 Ne3 Rc3 exf5 Qxb4 f6 Qb3 Rg2 
11     +0.08   00&#58;01    1949K h4 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 Rg2+ Bg7 Qf7+ Kh8 Qxe7 
                              Bh3 Bg4 Bxg2+ Kxg2 Rg8 Rf7 Qa3 h5 Qxb4 
12  >  +0.44   00&#58;01    2178K h4 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 Rg2+ Bg7 Qf7+ Kh8 Qxe7 
                              Bh3 Bg4 Bxg2+ Kxg2 Rg8 Rf7 Qa3 Nf2 Qxb4 e5 
12     +0.32   00&#58;01    2211K h4 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 Rg2+ Bg7 Qf7+ Kh8 Qxe7 
                              Bh3 Bg4 Bxg2+ Kxg2 Rg8 Rf7 Qa3 Nf2 Qxb4 e5 Qe1 
                              exd6 
13  <  +0.04   00&#58;01    2634K h4 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 Rg2+ Bg7 Qf7+ Kh8 Qxe7 
                              Bh3 Bg4 Bxg2+ Kxg2 Rg8 Rf7 Qa2+ Nf2 Qb2 h5 Rh6 
                              Qg5 Rf6 Rxf6 Qxf6 Qf5 Qxf5 exf5 Be5 
13     +0.12   00&#58;01    3410K h4 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 Rg2+ Bg7 Qf7+ Kh8 Qxe7 
                              Bh3 Ne3 Qb6 Bg4 Bxg2+ Nxg2 Bh6 Qf6+ Bg7 Qf7 
14  >  +0.44   00&#58;01    4605K h4 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 Rg2+ Bg7 Qf7+ Kh8 Qxe7 
                              Bh3 Ne3 Qb6 Bg4 Bxg2+ Nxg2 Bh6 Qf6+ Bg7 Qe6 Rf8 
                              Rxf8+ Bxf8 Bf5 
14     +0.08   00&#58;01    4803K h4 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 Rg2+ Bg7 Qf7+ Kh8 Qxe7 
                              Bh3 Bg4 Bxg2+ Kxg2 Rg8 Rf7 Qa2+ Nf2 Qb2 h5 Rh6 
                              Qg5 Rf6 Rxf6 Qxf6 Qf5 Qxf5 exf5 Be5 
15     +0.00   00&#58;02    7203K h4 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 Rg2+ Bg7 Qf7+ Kh8 Qxe7 
                              Bh3 Rxg7 Rxg7 Rf7 Rcg8 Rxg7 Rxg7 Qe8+ Kh7 Bxb5 
                              Bg2+ Kh2 Qa3 Qh5+ Kg8 Qe8+ Kh7 
16     +0.00   00&#58;02    8462K h4 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 Rg2+ Bg7 Qf7+ Kh8 Qxe7 
                              Bh3 Rxg7 Rxg7 Rf7 Rcg8 Rxg7 Rxg7 Qe8+ Kh7 Bxb5 
                              Bg2+ Kh2 Qa3 Qh5+ Kg8 Qe8+ Kh7 
17     +0.00   00&#58;02    9922K h4 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 Rg2+ Bg7 Qf7+ Kh8 Qxe7 
                              Bh3 Rxg7 Rxg7 Rf7 Rcg8 Rxg7 Rxg7 Qe8+ Kh7 Bxb5 
                              Bg2+ Kh2 Qa3 Qh5+ Kg8 Qe8+ Kh7 
18  >  +0.08   00&#58;03   17380K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qb6 Bxf4 exf4 e5 Nf6 exf6 Rf7 h6 
                              Rxf6 Qd2 Ke7 h7 
18  >  +0.16   00&#58;04   19575K h4 Be8 Rg2 f4 Qg4 
18  >  +0.32   00&#58;04   21967K h4 Be8 Rg2 f4 Qg4 
18  >  +0.65   00&#58;05   31869K h4 Be8 Rg2 f4 Qg4 
18     +0.81   00&#58;17  124316K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qb6 h6 Ne7 Qf3 Ng8 Qh5 Be8 Qh3 
                              Bd7 Bg4 Bxg4 Qxg4 Re8 Qf5+ Rf7 Qg6 Ne7 Bxe7+ 
                              Rexe7 h7 
19     +0.93   00&#58;21  159607K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Be8 Bg4 Rc4 Bf5 Rxb4 Qd2 
                              Ra4 Bxf4 exf4 Bxh7 Qxh7 Qxf4+ Nf6 Qxd6+ Qe7 Qf4 
                              Bg6 Qb8+ Be8 
20     +0.69   00&#58;24  175621K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc7 Bxf4 exf4 e5 dxe5 
                              Qxh7 Be6 Qe4 Nf6 Rxf4 exf4 Qxe6 Re7 Qc8+ Re8 Qf5 
                              Qh7 Qxh7 Nxh7 d6 Re5 Bg4 Nf6 Rd2 
21  >  +1.01   00&#58;32  240863K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc7 Bh5 Rxh6 Bxh6+ Nxh6 
                              Rg2 Bc8 Qxb5 Bd7 Qd3 Nf7 b5 Qb6 Bxf7 Kxf7 Qg3 Ke7 
                              Qh4+ Ke8 Rg8+ 
21  <  +0.36   00&#58;34  250248K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc7 Bh5 Rxh6 Bxh6+ Nxh6 
                              Rg2 Bc8 Qxb5 Nf7 Qd3 Qb6 b5 Nh6 Qb3 Rg7 Rxg7 Kxg7 
                              Nc3 Bd7 
21     +1.13   00&#58;49  373452K h4 Ke8 h5 Kd8 exf5 Kc7 Bxe7 Rxe7 f6 Rf7 Nc3 Qb7 
                              h6 Kb8 Nd1 Qa7 h7 Rh8 Bd3 Be8 Qg2 Rfxh7 Bxh7 Rxh7 
                              Qg8 Rxh2+ Kxh2 Qf7 Qxf7 Bxf7 
22  <  +0.57   01&#58;00  460010K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc4 Bxf4 exf4 e5 Be8 
                              Rxf4+ Rf7 Qg3 Rxf4 Qxf4+ Qf7 Qxf7+ Bxf7 Bxc4 bxc4 
                              e6 Bg6 Rh4 c3 Rxd4 c2 h7 Bxh7 Rf4+ Ke8 
22     +1.05   01&#58;08  516419K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc4 Qf3 Be8 Bxc4 bxc4 Nf2 
                              Qd7 Nh3 Bf7 Ng1 Ne7 Ne2 Be3 Ra1 Be8 Nc3 Bd4 b5 
                              Ng6 Ra8 
23  <  +0.73   01&#58;13  555515K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc7 Bh5 Rxh6 Bxh6+ Nxh6 
                              Qg3 Bf5 Qg5 Bxe4+ Bf3 Bxf3+ Rxf3 Nf7 Qf6 Ke8 Qg6 
                              Kd8 Qg8+ Ke7 Rh7 
23     +1.09   01&#58;21  619789K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc4 Qf3 Be8 Bxc4 bxc4 Nf2 
                              Bg6 Nh3 Qf7 Bxf4 exf4 Ng5 Qf6 Qxf4 Ke7 Nxh7 Bxh7 
                              Rg2 Qxf4 Rxf4 Ke8 b5 Nxh6 Kh2 
24  <  +1.01   01&#58;24  635737K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc4 Qf3 Be8 Bxc4 bxc4 
                              Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Nf6 Qxd6+ Qe7 Qf4 Rf7 d6 Qxe4+ 
                              Rg2 Qxf4 Rxf4 Be5 
24  <  +0.93   01&#58;26  654792K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc4 Qf3 Be8 Bxc4 bxc4 
                              Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Nf6 Qxd6+ Qe7 Qf4 Rf7 d6 Qxe4+ 
                              Rg2 Qxf4 Rxf4 Be5 
24  <  +0.77   01&#58;29  676933K h4 f4 Bxf4 exf4 Qxf4+ Kg8 Rg2+ Bg7 Qf7+ Kh8 Qxe7 
                              Bh3 h5 Bxg2+ Kxg2 Rg8 Qg5 Ba1 
24     +0.69   01&#58;37  737731K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc4 Qf3 Be8 Bxc4 bxc4 Nf2 
                              Bg6 b5 Qd7 Nh3 Rf7 Bh4 Nxh6 Ng5 Re7 Bf2 Ng4 Bxd4 
                              Nxh2 Kxh2 Kg8 Bc3 
25  >  +1.13   02&#58;04  956109K h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc4 Qf3 Be8 Bxc4 
25     +0.89   02&#58;12    1018M h4 f4 h5 Ng8 Qd3 Qa7 h6 Rc4 Qf3 Be8 Bxc4 bxc4 Nf2 
                              Bg6 Nh3 Qf7 Bh4 Rxh6 Ng5 Qa7 Qg4 Nf6 Qc8+ Ne8 
                              Qxc4 Qe7 Qxd4 exd4 Ne6+ Qxe6 dxe6 Bxe4+ Kg1 Rg6+ 
                              Kf2 Rxe6 Rd1 d3 Bg5 Nf6 Rh4 Nd5 b5 Rg6 Bxf4 
26     +1.09   04&#58;00    1901M h4 Ke8 h5 Kd8 exf5 Kc7 Bxe7 Rxe7 f6 Rf7 Nc3 Qb7 
                              h6 Kb8 Nd1 Rh8 Bd3 Qc8 Ne3 e4 Qxe4 Be5 Rh5 Rxf6 
                              Rxf6 Bxf6 Qf4 Qc1+ Bf1 Be7 h7 Qb1 Qg3 Kb7 
27     +0.93   04&#58;52    2327M h4 Ke8 h5 Kd8 exf5 Kc7 Bxe7 Rxe7 f6 Rf7 Nc3 Qb7 
                              h6 Kb8 Nd1 Rh8 Bd3 Qc8 Ne3 e4 Qxe4 Be5 Rh5 Qf8 h7 
                              Rxf6 Rxf6 Qxf6 Ng4 Qf7 Rh4 Bc3 Nh6 Qf6 
28     +1.13   07&#58;10    3475M h4 Ke8 h5 Kd8 exf5 Kc7 Bxe7 Rxe7 f6 Rf7 Nc3 Qb7 
                              h6 Kb8 Nd1 Rh8 Bd3 Qc8 h7 Bg4 Qg2 Bxd1 Rxd1 Rxf6 
                              Bxb5 Qb7 Bd3 Qf7 Qe2 Qc7 Be4 Qc3 b5 Qg3 Rc1 
29  <  +0.85   08&#58;18    4052M h4 Ke8 h5 Kd8 exf5 Kc7 Bxe7 Rxe7 f6 Rf7 Nc3 Qb7 
                              h6 Kb8 
29     +0.93   12&#58;22    6101M h4 Ke8 h5 Kd8 exf5 Kc7 Bxe7 Rxe7 f6 Rf7 Nc3 Qb7 
                              h6 Kb8 Nd1 Rh8 Bd3 Qc8 h7 Bg4 Qg2 Bxd1 Rxd1 Rxf6 
                              Bxb5 Qf8 Bd3 Rf4 Qe2 Qg7 Be4 Rg4 Qb5+ Qb7 Qxb7+ 
                              Kxb7 Re2 Kb6 Bd3 Bc3 Rc1 Bxb4 Rc6+ 
29  >  +1.41   12&#58;48    6322M Qg3 Ng6 exf5 Nf4 Rxf4 exf4 Bxf4 Bxf5 Bxd6+ Kf7 
                              Qf3 
29  >  +1.70   13&#58;03    6449M Qg3 Ng6 exf5 Nf4 Rxf4 exf4 Bxf4 Bxf5 Bxd6+ Kf7 
                              Qf3 
29  >  +2.26   13&#58;53    6886M Qg3 Ng6 exf5 Nf4 Rxf4 exf4 Bxf4 Bxf5 Bxd6+ Kf7 
                              Qf3 
29  >  +3.39   16&#58;59    8538M Qg3 Ng6 exf5 Nf4 Bxf4 Bxf5 Rg2 exf4 Rxf4 
29     +3.56   22&#58;25   11360M Qg3 f4 Bxe7+ Kxe7 Qg5+ Kf8 Bh5 Be8 Qf5+ Rf7 Bxf7 
                              Bxf7 Rg2 Ra8 Qf6 Qc8 Nf2 Qd8 Qh6+ Ke8 Rg7 Bxf2 
                              Rh7 Bb6 Rh8+ Ke7 Rxd8 Bxd8 Rc1 Ra6 h4 Ke8 Kg1 Ke7 
30     +3.88   29&#58;30   15186M Qg3 Kf7 Bxe7 Rg8 Bg5 f4 h4 Qc8 Qd3 Ba7 Nf2 Rg6 
                              Qf3 Bd4 Nd3 Rgg7 Rc1 Qb8 Nf2 Be3 Rf1 Rg6 Qg2 Bb6 
                              Nd3 Bd8 Qf3 Kg8 Nxf4 exf4 Qxf4 
31     +3.88   34&#58;11   17732M Qg3 Kf7 Bxe7 Rg8 Bg5 f4 h4 Qc8 Qd3 Ba7 Nf2 Rg6 
                              Qf3 Bd4 Nd3 Rgg7 Rc1 Qb8 Nf2 Be3 Rg1 Bd4 h5 Qg8 
                              Rhg2 

Nodes&#58; 18119634931
Nodes/second&#58; 8641586
Best move&#58; Qg3
Ponder move&#58; Kf7

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Re: Test position for any non commercials rated under 3400el

Post by vladstamate » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:20 pm

Plisk sees it in 13 seconds at depth 14 . I did have Starcarft2 running in the background so it could have been faster maybe.

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&#91;+0.92&#93;  d=15  1.Qg3 Ng8 2.exf5 Qa8 3.Qf3 Ne7 4.Bxe7 Kxe7 5.f6 Kf7 6.Nf2 Bxf2 7.Rfxf2 Qa1 8.Rf1 Qd4 9.Bd3 Rh6 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;24&#41; 14653kN
 &#91;+1.04&#93;  d=14  1.Qg3 f4 2.Bxe7 Rxe7 3.Qh4 Rf7 4.Qh6 Ke7 5.Bh5 Rg8 6.Bxf7 Kxf7 7.Nf2 Rg6 8.Qh7 Rg7 9.Qh6 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;13&#41; 7852kN
 &#91;+0.51&#93;  d=13  1.Bxe7 Kxe7 2.exf5 Rch8 3.Nc3 Qb7 4.Bd3 Rh4 5.Ne2 Bb6 6.f6 Kf8 7.Rc1 Bxh3 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;05&#41; 2986kN
 &#91;+0.44&#93;  d=12  1.Bxe7 Kxe7 2.exf5 Rch8 3.Bd3 Kd8 4.Nf2 Rf7 5.f6 Qa3 6.Ng4 Qxb4 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;03&#41; 1893kN
 &#91;+0.44&#93;  d=11  1.Bxe7 Kxe7 2.exf5 Rch8 3.Bd3 Kd8 4.Ne3 Qa3 5.Ng4 Rf7 6.f6 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;02&#41; 1480kN
 &#91;+0.38&#93;  d=10  1.Bxe7 Kxe7 2.exf5 Kf7 3.Bd3 Rg8 4.h4 Qb6 5.Re1 Ke7 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;01&#41; 1058kN
 &#91;+0.30&#93;  d=9  1.Bxe7 Kxe7 2.exf5 Qb6 3.Qd3 Kd8 4.Rg2 Rc4 5.Rg8 Be8 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;00&#41; 253kN
 &#91;+0.30&#93;  d=8  1.Bxe7 Kxe7 2.exf5 Kf8 3.f6 Rh6 4.Bd3 Qb6 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;00&#41; 165kN
 &#91;+0.20&#93;  d=7  1.Bxe7 Kxe7 2.exf5 Kd8 3.f6 Qa2 4.Bxb5 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;00&#41; 123kN
 &#91;+0.94&#93;  d=6  1.exf5 Qb7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.f6 Kf7 4.Bd3 Rh6 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;00&#41; 33kN
 &#91;+0.75&#93;  d=5  1.exf5 Qb7 2.Ne3 Bxe3 3.Qxe3 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;00&#41; 17kN
 &#91;+0.38&#93;  d=4  1.exf5 Nxf5 2.Bd3 Rf7 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;00&#41; 5kN
 &#91;+0.11&#93;  d=3  1.exf5 Nxf5 2.Bd3 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;00&#41; 2kN
 &#91;-0.23&#93;  d=2  1.Bxe7 Kxe7 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;00&#41; 1kN
 &#91;+0.77&#93;  d=1  1.Qg3 &#40;0&#58;00&#58;00&#41; 0kN

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Re: Test position for any non commercials rated under 3400el

Post by JVMerlino » Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:52 am

Myrddin finds this in 17 seconds. I'm actually kind of stunned.... Must be luck.

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 1    73      0        50 g5e7 h7e7 e4f5
 2    73      0       344 g5e7 h7e7 e4f5
 3    33      0      1123 g5e7? h7e7
 3    35      0      1878 e4f5 e7f5 e2d3
 4     3      3      9553 e4f5 e7f5 e2d3 h7f7
 4    48      3     12420 g5e7 h7e7 e4f5 f8g8 e2d3
 5    38      6     27967 g5e7 h7e7 e4f5 f8g8 h2g2 e7g7 g2g7 g8g7
 6    26     12     57505 g5e7 h7e7 e4f5 e5e4 f3b3 f8g8 f5f6
 7    32     51    244512 g5e7 h7e7 e4f5 e5e4 f3b3 f8g8 f5f6 e7e5
 8    31     85    416389 g5e7 f8e7 e4f5 a6a4 f5f6 e7f7 e2d3 h7h8 d1e3 d4e3 f3e3
 a4b4
 9    32    137    667976 g5e7 f8e7 e4f5 a6a4 f5f6 e7f7 e2d3 h7h8 d3f5 d7f5 f3f5
 a4b4
10    54    394   1946410 g5e7 f8e7 e4f5 a6a4 f3g3 c8h8 e2d3 e7f8 d1e3 d4e3 g3e3
 a4b4
11    51    736   3720274 g5e7 f8e7 e4f5 a6a4 f3g3 c8h8 g3g5 e7f7 g5g6 f7e7 f5f6
 e7f8 h3h4 a4b4 h4h5
11    94   1750   8837431 f3g3!
11   124   2797  14448565 f3g3 f5f4 g5e7 f8e7 g3g5 e7f8 g5f6 h7f7 f6h6 f8e7 e2h5
 c8g8 h5f7 e7f7
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