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PauloSoare
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Re: Leiden 2010

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Zagalo wrote:
PauloSoare wrote:Glaurung clone? A bad joke.
If you remove Glaurung code from SF you will be left with a bad joke !
So you're introducing a new concept: Stockfish is a Glaurung clone,
but with the permission of one of the Stockfish programmers, which is
the Glaurung programmer.
Not a bad joke but a good joke. :D
Tord Romstad
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Re: Leiden 2010

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Zagalo wrote:So, in my opinion, for SF team to show their appreciation, gratitude and greater respect for the original author, they should, at least, give the engine back the name its original author gave it, Glaurung! which is what it really is after all, a modified Glaurung. I think this is the least they could do for the original author because without him SF is a mere clone and is banned from most tournaments!
I hate to boost, but I think we in the Stockfish team understand the work of the original author and its exact importance better than anyone else in the world. We respect him exactly as much as he deserves.

Renaming the program to Glaurung would be incorrect and misleading. We won't do it. I'm tired of explaining why, so I'll just provide a link to an old thread where I discussed this topic:

http://wbec-ridderkerk.forumotion.com/w ... g-t402.htm

Let's get back on topic, please. This thread isn't about Stockfish. Let's discuss Leiden.
:)
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Thomas Lagershausen
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Re: Leiden 2010 round 7 please post pgn of Junior-Rybka

Post by Thomas Lagershausen »

Soon as possible

for me the game of the games.

Thx in advance :!:
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Re: Leiden 2010 - pgn folder is empty (round 6)

Post by Thomas Lagershausen »

Please correct the folder of the games.

Yesterday there were games in the folder till round 4.

today, the folder is completly empty.

No games, till round 6.

Greetings.
TL
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Re: Leiden 2010 round 7 please post pgn of Junior-Rybka

Post by Dr.Ex »

I can't post it, it's awful.
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Re: Leiden 2010 round 7 please post pgn of Junior-Rybka

Post by Thomas Lagershausen »

I need moves.

Is it magic, or is it antichess?

Greetings
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Dr.Ex
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Re: Leiden 2010 round 7 please post pgn of Junior-Rybka

Post by Dr.Ex »

Yes, Antichess from Junior.

[Event "Blitz:80'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2010.05.30"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Deep Junior"]
[Black "Rybka 4b3 master cluster"]
[Result "0-1"]
[PlyCount "115"]
[EventDate "2010.??.??"]
[TimeControl "4800"]

{598MB, B_celle.ctg} 1. e4 {0} e6 {B/ 0 0} 2. d4 {11} d5 {B/ 0 0} 3. Nc3 {18}
Bb4 {B/ 0 0} 4. e5 {11} Qd7 {B/ 0 0} 5. a3 {10} Bxc3+ {B/ 0 0} 6. bxc3 {11} b6
{B/ 0 0} 7. Qg4 {14} f5 {B/ 0 0} 8. Qg3 {12} Ba6 {B/ 0 0} 9. Bxa6 {14} Nxa6 {
B/ 0 0} 10. Ne2 {12} Kf7 {B/ 0 0} 11. a4 {17} Ne7 {B/ 0 0} 12. h4 {120} c5 {
B/ 0 0} 13. h5 {70} h6 {0.06/23 294} 14. O-O {316} Rhc8 {0.00/23 352} 15. Nf4 {
119} cxd4 {-0.24/22 142} 16. cxd4 {12} Rxc2 {-0.06/23 154} 17. Ba3 {307} Rc4 {
-0.15/25 0} 18. Rfc1 {631} Rac8 {-0.11/26 247} 19. Rcb1 {40} Re8 {-0.83/23 213}
20. Bxe7 {146} Rxe7 {-1.12/20 51} 21. a5 {23} b5 {-1.21/20 0} 22. Rd1 {271} Nb4
{-1.41/22 0} 23. Rac1 {192} Nc2 {-1.50/23 0} 24. Rd2 {82} Qc8 {-1.49/24 0} 25.
Rcd1 {263} b4 26. Rd3 Kg8 27. Kh2 Qe8 28. Qh4 Rb7 29. Qh3 Rb5 30. Qh4 a6 31. g4
b3 32. gxf5 b2 33. Nxe6 Nxd4 34. Rxd4 Rxd4 35. Nxd4 Qxe5+ 36. f4 Qxd4 37. Rxd4
b1=Q 38. Qf2 Qxf5 39. Qe2 Kf8 40. Qd3 Qxh5+ 41. Kg3 Kf7 42. f5 Rb2 43. Rh4 Qg5+
44. Rg4 Rg2+ 45. Kxg2 Qxg4+ 46. Kf2 Qh4+ 47. Kg1 Qe1+ 48. Kh2 Qxa5 49. Qe2 Qc7+
50. Kh3 Qd6 51. Qh5+ Kf8 52. Qf3 Qe5 53. Qd3 Kf7 54. Qf1 Kf6 55. Qxa6+ Kxf5 56.
Qb7 d4 57. Qf3+ Kg6 58. Qg4+ 0-1
Zagalo
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Re: Leiden 2010 round 7 please post pgn of Junior-Rybka

Post by Zagalo »

Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "The King"]
[Black "Rybka"]
[Result "*"]
[Annotator "HarveyWilliamson"]
[PlyCount "61"]

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. d4 Nc6 4. a3 d6 5. Nc3 g6 6. e4 Bg7 7. Be2 O-O 8. O-O
Re8 9. Be3 e5 10. d5 Nd4 11. Nxd4 exd4 12. Bxd4 Nxe4 13. Bxg7 Kxg7 14. Nxe4
Rxe4 15. Bd3 Re8 16. Qb3 b6 17. Qc2 Bd7 18. Rad1 Qf6 19. Qd2 Rac8 20. b3 Rb8
21. Kh1 Re7 22. f4 Rbe8 23. f5 g5 24. Rf3 g4 25. Rf4 h5 26. Kg1 Re3 27. b4 Kf8
28. b5 Qe5 29. Rdf1 Ke7 30. f6+ Kd8 31. Qc2 h4*

-4.15 Amazing how quickly The King collapsed.
Zagalo
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Re: Leiden 2010 round 7 please post pgn of Junior-Rybka

Post by Zagalo »

Rybka wins her last game and the 10th Leiden ICT with 8/9

[Event "ICT Leiden 2010"]
[Site "www.computerschaak.nl"]
[Date "2010.05.30"]
[Round "9"]
[White "The King"]
[Black "Rybka"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "HarveyWilliamson"]
[PlyCount "128"]

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. d4 Nc6 4. a3 d6 5. Nc3 g6 6. e4 Bg7 7. Be2 O-O 8. O-O
Re8 9. Be3 e5 10. d5 Nd4 11. Nxd4 exd4 12. Bxd4 Nxe4 13. Bxg7 Kxg7 14. Nxe4
Rxe4 15. Bd3 Re8 16. Qb3 b6 17. Qc2 Bd7 18. Rad1 Qf6 19. Qd2 Rac8 20. b3 Rb8
21. Kh1 Re7 22. f4 Rbe8 23. f5 g5 24. Rf3 g4 25. Rf4 h5 26. Kg1 Re3 27. b4 Kf8
28. b5 Qe5 29. Rdf1 Ke7 30. f6+ Kd8 31. Qc2 h4 32. Bf5 Re2 33. Qd3 h3 34. R4f2
Rxf2 35. Rxf2 Bxf5 36. Rxf5 Qb2 37. gxh3 Re2 38. Qxe2 Qxe2 39. h4 Qe3+ 40. Rf2
g3 41. hxg3 Qxg3+ 42. Kf1 Qxh4 43. Rc2 Qe4 44. Rc3 Qd4 45. Rf3 Qxc4+ 46. Kf2
Qxd5 47. Kg3 Qxb5 48. Kh4 c5 49. Rf4 c4 50. a4 Qd5 51. a5 c3 52. Rf2 Qe4+ 53.
Kh3 bxa5 54. Rf1 Qe3+ 55. Kg2 c2 56. Kh2 c1=R 57. Rxc1 Qxc1 58. Kg3 Qe3+ 59.
Kg4 Ke8 60. Kf5 Qf3+ 61. Kg5 Kf8 62. Kh4 Qg2 63. Kh5 Qg3 64. Kh6 Qg6# 0-1
Zagalo
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Re: Leiden 2010 round 7 please post pgn of Junior-Rybka

Post by Zagalo »

ICT Leiden 2010: Rybka wins with 8/9. Opening report

By Jeroen

After being absent for about a year, Vas asked me to do the preparations for the 10th ICT Leiden tournament. I gladly accepted, realising that catching up would be rather difficult: it is impossible to polish up your book in a month or 2 when it has been in the dustbin for so many months. So I took a practical approach: take some old idea's, prepare some new ones, but do not try to catch up. Be glad with 8-15 book moves and strive for a complicated, dynamical position, with preferably as many pieces on the board as possible.

I am sure Vas will do a round up for the tournament, so I'll limit myself to the opening point of view:

Round 1: The Baron - Rybka 0:1
Quite surprisingly The Baron opened 1.e4, which it had never done before against any program that used my book. The reply probably also was a surprise: the French defence. The Baron chose the solid Tarrasch, in which I came up with 3... Be7 and a rather murky line. Rybka quickly equalised and when The Baron refused to exchange queens, she used some nice tactics to win an exchange. Due to the many pawn weaknesses Rybka duly converted the advantage into a win.

Round 2: Rybka - Komodo 1:0
Komodo played a rare line in the Pirc - Ufimzev defence and Rybka quickly grasped the initiative, sacrificing pawns for a swift development. Komodo never got a moment to relax and with some nice blows Rybka won material and the game.

Round 3: Spark - Rybka 0:1
I was a bit surprised to see the O'Kelly Sicilian appearing, which turned out to be a serious problem in my main book. More about that later. Of course white is a bit better in this line and Spark played well to keep some initiative. After a slight mistake Rybka managed to equalize, but Spark refused to trade rooks with a simple draw. Then it went from bad to worse, with Spark playing several sub optimal moves. Rybka outplayed her opponent nicely, ending the first day at 3/3.

Round 4: Rybka - Hiarcs 1:0
Always interesting from a book point of view is the game vs Hiarcs and also this time we were not disappointed. Hiarcs used an offbeat line to combat the 6.h3 Najdorf, but Rybka reacted very strongly by sacrificing a pawn for some serious white square domination. Quietly moving her q-side pawns Rybka got a clear advantage and when the black b-pawn fell, it was the beginning of the end. The strong white b7 pawn decided the game. I liked this game a lot.

Round 5: Shredder - Rybka 0:1
Another surprise awaited me when Shredder opened 1.d4, which was not expected. The book I used for this game had the Dutch Leningrad as a response, one of the offbeat lines I prepared for this tournament. Of course I never thought I'd use it against Shredder :-). White had some edge after the opening, but once again cluster power managed to equalize with some strong moves. For some reason Shredder refused several drawing lines and opted for a dubious looking ending with a weak passed pawn on d6. Another mistake and Rybka nicely rounded up the pawn, converting the endgame into another win.

Round 6: Rybka - Sjeng 0:1
Being tired of so many Ruy's I came up with another surprise for this game, the Scotch. Alas, Sjeng was well prepared and white didn't have anything after the opening. Sjeng could have equalised easily, but preferred to keep the game going. Slowly Rybka was putting her pieces in good positions, showing something like +0.30, when suddenly disaster kicked in. An incorrect exchange sacrifice was played after only a 7 ply search, immediately putting Rybka in a lost position. I was terribly upset and left the tournament hall immediately. My apologies to Gian-Carlo for this behaviour and not congratulate Sjeng on this win, which I'd like to correct here on this forum. After day 2 Rybka was still in the lead with 5/6, Sjeng being 0.5 behind.

Round 7: Junior - Rybka 0:1
To my astonishment I saw Rybka playing the French against Junior, which was totally unintended. First I had the idea Hans had selected the wrong book, but the problem was elsewhere: before round 1 Hans had chosen the wrong book option (I don't know exactly which one) after which a merging of books started. He quickly stopped the process, but apparently some damage was done: the priorities of the book I used against Junior were damaged. Alas, I never would imagine that the book choice actually worked very well. Rybka had simple equality after leaving book and when Junior sacrificed a pawn and refused to go for equality, Rybka quickly took over the game and gave Junior no chance to recover.

Round 8: Rybka - Pandix 1:0
The problem with the book priorities could not be solved before the next round. Against Pandix this led to another Scotch game, which I was not intending. Again, however, the opening went well. Up to 16.h4 it was all book and Rybka quickly got a huge advantage after inaccurate moves by Pandix. A nice win.

Round 9: The King - Rybka 0:1
Finally I managed to catch Hans on the phone trying to do some damage control. Indeed many priorities in the book I wanted to use were altered, so I ordered Hans to change them. Being at home, though, I couldn't check everything and then you know it, you get punished at some point. Another unintended line appeared on the board, leading to a dead equal position after 14 moves. Two times lucky, third time... not. Very frustrating. Luckily The King completely misplayed the position and 10 moves later Rybka was already in control. It didn't take long for Rybka to cash in and hence winning the 10th Leiden ICT with a 8/9 score.

Thanks to everybody for the nice tournament and of course I am happy I can celebrate my return with a Rybka win!

Special thanks to Vas for the great new cluster version; to Lukas for providing this awesome machine; to Hans for operating Rybka this weekend; Jiri for some nice idea's I could use.

Last but not least: I hope Larry Kaufman will soon recover and can return home.

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... ?tid=17206