Rybka 3 stronger than Rybka 4 CCRL

[kgburcham]

$140 for a weaker program??
Did Vas dummy down too much??
Maybe we can buy the rental version.

how reliable is the CCRL?

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/40 ... t_all.html

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Vasik is going to sell you a piece of crap so that you can open your wallets and rent his other online piece of crap which will be slightly stronger....
Haven'y you notice that his most loyal fanboys are keeping radio silence in the forum including his most loyal dog Rolf
Something is seriously wrong....
Dr.D

[kgburcham]

dummyup patch

Vas will release a dummyup patch after he finds out that Rybka 4 is getting beat by Rybka 3.
No one at chessbase computer room is winning with Rybka 4.
Complaints comming in from everyone.

will this be the first dummyup patch or has this been done before?
wonder if Robert has ever released a dummyup patch for his Crafty?

its all about money

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

dummyup patch

Vas will release a dummyup patch after he finds out that Rybka 4 is getting beat by Rybka 3.
No one at chessbase computer room is winning with Rybka 4.
Complaints comming in from everyone.

will this be the first dummyup patch or has this been done before?
wonder if Robert has ever released a dummyup patch for his Crafty?

its all about money

Told you so loooong time ago but his most loyal fanboys kept on defending their leader and his most loyal dog Rolf kept on barking at the wrong tree....now he's silent like a dump a$$....
Dr.D

[lkaufman]

This version had a fatal flaw in repeating time control games like CCRL uses. It has already been fixed. The latest beta is definitely stronger than R3, although not dramatically so.

[Shaun]

A slight communication issue cause the beta results to be released earlier than I had meant, my fault, sorry to all.

There is a bug in the early betas that effects repeating time controls, I thought it would be interesting to record the progress as the bug is fixed. I had intended that once a fixed version was sufficiently tested the list would be released with the tested beta versions, as it show the progress and how much something simple can cripple an engines performance.

Shaun

[S.Taylor]

although not dramatically so.

THIS is the biggest worry. THIS he might get away with, I'm afraid. (he wouldn't get away with R4 being weaker than R3).

[Uri Blass]

$140 for a weaker program??
Did Vas dummy down too much??
Maybe we can buy the rental version.

how reliable is the CCRL?

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/40 ... t_all.html

This is not Rybka4
This is only Rybka4 beta.

You cannot get conclusions from it about rybka4.
There is no known limit for the possible difference in playing strength
between Rybka4 beta and Rybka4.

Uri

[mariaclara]

hehehehe..............

yup. just give it time and the loyal fanboys and those loyally waiting for freebies...........

will be howling soon....

dummyup patch

Vas will release a dummyup patch after he finds out that Rybka 4 is getting beat by Rybka 3.
No one at chessbase computer room is winning with Rybka 4.
Complaints comming in from everyone.

will this be the first dummyup patch or has this been done before?
wonder if Robert has ever released a dummyup patch for his Crafty?

its all about money

Told you so loooong time ago but his most loyal fanboys kept on defending their leader and his most loyal dog Rolf kept on barking at the wrong tree....now he's silent like a dump a$$....
Dr.D

[sockmonkey]

$140 for a weaker program??
Did Vas dummy down too much??
Maybe we can buy the rental version.

how reliable is the CCRL?

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/40 ... t_all.html

This is not Rybka4
This is only Rybka4 beta.

You cannot get conclusions from it about rybka4.
There is no known limit for the possible difference in playing strength
between Rybka4 beta and Rybka4.

Uri

Nor can you pretend that "Rybka4 beta" is somehow unrelated to "Rybka4". Obviously, the version tested had some serious problems which have apparently been fixed in the meantime. But some version of "Rybka4 beta" is going to get the seal of approval and become "Rybka4", so it's not surprising that people are watching the testing with interest and concern.

I really don't understand what Vas has been doing for the last 2 years, though. Especially considering that this product was supposed to be released at the end of last year, it sounds like it's barely been tested by its developer and is full of bugs which were reported ad nauseum since the release of R3. Maybe it's been Cluster Rybka, maybe Cloud Rybka? In any case, it's fairly clear that it hasn't been "Rybka4 beta". Kind of disappointing.

Jeremy