Which one is stronger: Naum 4.1 or Stockfish 1.6.3?

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Jouni
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Which one is stronger: Naum 4.1 or Stockfish 1.6.3?

Post by Jouni »

In most rating lists Naum is ahead, but not in all. And how about Naum 4.2 vs Stockfish 1.7!

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Re: Which one is stronger: Naum 4.1 or Stockfish 1.6.3?

Post by Damir »

Where can I find Stockfish 1.7 ?
BrandonSi

Re: Which one is stronger: Naum 4.1 or Stockfish 1.6.3?

Post by BrandonSi »

Neither Naum 4.2 or Stockfish 1.7 have been publicly released.

According to CEGT 40/4 (and probably others, I didn't bother to look) Stockfish 1.6.3 is slightly stronger by Naum 4.1, by about 10-15 elo.
maxchgr

Re: Which one is stronger: Naum 4.1 or Stockfish 1.6.3?

Post by maxchgr »

I think it's reasonable to say that they're of equal strength, with Naum possibly having a slight advantage in longer games, and vice versa.
BrandonSi

Re: Which one is stronger: Naum 4.1 or Stockfish 1.6.3?

Post by BrandonSi »

maxchgr wrote:I think it's reasonable to say that they're of equal strength, with Naum possibly having a slight advantage in longer games, and vice versa.
I would agree, 10-15 elo with regards to engine strength doesn't mean a great deal.
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Re: Which one is stronger: Naum 4.1 or Stockfish 1.6.3?

Post by Uri Blass »

Jouni wrote:In most rating lists Naum is ahead, but not in all. And how about Naum 4.2 vs Stockfish 1.7!

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Stockfish1.6x seems to be stronger than Naum4.2 based on the following link(not enough games)

At least Naum4.2 is stronger than Naum4.1 and hopefully also stronger than Deep shredder12 but after 100 games it is not clear (Naum4.1 was weaker than Deep shredder12 based on thousands of games)

http://www.inwoba.de/

Naum 4.2 - Rybka 3 mp (2905) 2.5 - 7.5 25.00% Perf=2715
Naum 4.2 - Stockfish 1.6.x JA (2832) 4.5 - 6.5 40.91% Perf=2769
Naum 4.2 - Deep Shredder 12 (2801) 6.5 - 3.5 65.00% Perf=2908
Naum 4.2 - Komodo64 1.0 JA (2780) 7.0 - 4.0 63.64% Perf=2877
Naum 4.2 - Zappa Mexico II (2706) 7.0 - 3.0 70.00% Perf=2853
Naum 4.2 - Protector 1.3.2 JA (2696) 5.0 - 5.0 50.00% Perf=2696
Naum 4.2 - Onno-1-1-1 (2678) 7.0 - 3.0 70.00% Perf=2825
Naum 4.2 - Spark-0.3 VC(a) (2671) 5.0 - 4.0 55.56% Perf=2709
Naum 4.2 - Deep Sjeng WC2008 (2668) 6.5 - 3.5 65.00% Perf=2775
Naum 4.2 - Hiarcs 12.1 MP 32b (2655) 7.5 - 1.5 83.33% Perf=2934
58.5 - 41.5 58.50% Perf=2801




100 out of 1000 games played
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Re: Which one is stronger: Naum 4.1 or Stockfish 1.6.3?

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

32-Bit, 40 in 10, ponder = on

SWCR all games:
http://www.nk-qy.info/swcr-all-games.txt

SWCR actual:
http://www.schach-welt.de/spezial/compu ... p-20-.html

So far, Ktulu 9.03 is playing ...

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SWCR blitz, game in 5 minutes:
http://www.nk-qy.info/swcr-blitz.txt
not enough games so far

included are Naum 4.0, 4.1, Stockfish 1.6.0, Stockfish 1.6.3 (version 1.6.3 is around 20 ELO stronger as version 1.6.0).

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Frank
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Re: Which one is stronger: Naum 4.1 or Stockfish 1.6.3?

Post by beachknight »

Frank Quisinsky wrote:Hi there,


So far, Ktulu 9.03 is playing ...


Best
Frank
Another super news for Ktulu fans.

:D

Best,
hi, merhaba, hallo HT
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Re: Which one is stronger: Naum 4.1 or Stockfish 1.6.3?

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi,

it's only a test to find out the errors Ktulu 9.0 have.
I found out a lot and Rahman try to fix it, but he isn't often at home to do that. I think, if ready Rahman will send a bugfix version to Lokasoft.

Best
Frank