In light of what you now know. I assume we should look at the 0.2 version as well right?
Christopher
Crimson 1.1 available
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Re: Crimson 1.1 available
You're the expert on this cloning stuff, so I guess it wouldn't hurt.Christopher Conkie wrote:In light of what you now know. I assume we should look at the 0.2 version as well right?
Christopher
I wonder how many other clones are out there.
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Re: Crimson 1.1 available
This one was not a big surprise
Could see it coming from miles away
Could see it coming from miles away
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Re: Crimson 1.1 available
I think any programmer worth his salt could do what I do and I am not the only one who checks anyway.Graham Banks wrote:
You're the expert on this cloning stuff, so I guess it wouldn't hurt.
You mean undiscovered ones that are not derivative clones right? Not many, if any? Now if you asked how many clones are being made and are as yet unreleased......then at any one time a good guess would be about 8 on average.I wonder how many other clones are out there.
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Re: Crimson 1.1 available
Yes I meant "illegal" clones as opposed to openly stated and therefore "legal" derivatives of GPL open source engines.Christopher Conkie wrote:I think any programmer worth his salt could do what I do and I am not the only one who checks anyway.Graham Banks wrote:
You're the expert on this cloning stuff, so I guess it wouldn't hurt.
You mean undiscovered ones that are not derivative clones right? Not many, if any? Now if you asked how many clones are being made and are as yet unreleased......then at any one time a good guess would be about 8 on average.I wonder how many other clones are out there.
I really can't understand how those who release "illegal" clones gain any satisfaction from what they do.
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Re: Crimson 1.1 available
I can't understand why derivatives get given different names than the source from which they came.......Graham Banks wrote:Yes I meant "illegal" clones as opposed to openly stated and therefore "legal" derivatives of GPL open source engines.
I really can't understand how those who release "illegal" clones gain any satisfaction from what they do.
As a percentage of the code surely, they have only a right to change no more than two letters.......
So Viper becomes Sniper.
Bullet and trigger happy regards
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Re: Crimson 1.1 available
Hi Norm,kranium wrote:major changes:
eval/material/search parameters tuned
code cleanup/optimization
middlegame -> endgame evaluation/recognition improved
piece square-tables tweaked
verification search removed
http://www.cyclonechess.com/crimson.html
Regards-
Norm
Don´t care about what others say. If you want to catch Rybka, go ahead.
And if have success one day, all the people will want to buy your "clone".
I only remind you that you should never forget the original author, and when you start gaining yor money from "cloning", you should devide it the the origibal author in a just proportion.
All the best.
SL
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It means, you should inform only the original author about your cloning.
"Well, I´m just a soul whose intentions are good,
Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood."
Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood."
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Re: Crimson 1.1 available
I doubt he will make Tord rich even if he keeps it a secret and/or tells him that his GPL program has been sold and released without source code.slobo wrote:Hi Norm,kranium wrote:major changes:
eval/material/search parameters tuned
code cleanup/optimization
middlegame -> endgame evaluation/recognition improved
piece square-tables tweaked
verification search removed
http://www.cyclonechess.com/crimson.html
Regards-
Norm
Don´t care about what others say. If you want to catch Rybka, go ahead.
And if have success one day, all the people will want to buy your "clone".
I only remind you that you should never forget the original author, and when you start gaining yor money from "cloning", you should devide it the the origibal author in a just proportion.
All the best.
SL
PS
It means, you should inform only the original author about your cloning.
Maybe you got lost Slobodan. The CTF is here....
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3
I'm waiting for you there.....
Christopher
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Re: Crimson 1.1 available
Norm, keep on working on your clone.Christopher Conkie wrote:I doubt he will make Tord rich even if he keeps it a secret and/or tells him that his GPL program has been sold and released without source code.slobo wrote:Hi Norm,kranium wrote:major changes:
eval/material/search parameters tuned
code cleanup/optimization
middlegame -> endgame evaluation/recognition improved
piece square-tables tweaked
verification search removed
http://www.cyclonechess.com/crimson.html
Regards-
Norm
Don´t care about what others say. If you want to catch Rybka, go ahead.
And if have success one day, all the people will want to buy your "clone".
I only remind you that you should never forget the original author, and when you start gaining yor money from "cloning", you should devide it the the origibal author in a just proportion.
All the best.
SL
PS
It means, you should inform only the original author about your cloning.
Maybe you got lost Slobodan. The CTF is here....
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3
I'm waiting for you there.....
Christopher
If Tord is really the original author, keep him informed what you are doing. It is only the problem between you two. Keep the "mob" far from it.
"Well, I´m just a soul whose intentions are good,
Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood."
Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood."
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Re: Crimson 1.1 is a clone of Viper (and so is 1.0)
Well done Christopher,Christopher Conkie wrote:Bonjour Patrick,Le Fou numerique wrote:Hi,
Crimson 1.1 or Cyclone 1.1 ?????
The compil in the archive is Cyclone 1.1 !!!!
Strange. In french we say: "Lapsus révélateur".
Patrick
I have examined both Crimson 1.0 and Crimson 1.1.
They are both clones of Viper 0.1 by Tord Romstad.
Regards
Christopher
Thanks again!!
Leo