mcostalba wrote:
I challange you and your silly co-threaders to take a program like Glaurung (but I can say also Toga) and increase it of 20 ELO points.
You ARE not able to do it, otherwise you will be more respectful of the work of other people because you knew what it means.
I believe Chris is able to improve Glaurung by even more than 20 ELO. And I believe I am able to improve Glaurung by more than 20 ELO too.
Can you also say Toga? Do you understand the difference between improving Glaurung and improving Toga? I try to explain it to you in simple words.
Glaurung is a strong engine. It was writen by a single person, Tord Romstad. Tord wrote easy to read code. That is not always most efficient. Tord does not have computational resources to test every detail. Three is still much room for improvements.
Fruit is a strong engine. It was written by Fabien Letouzey. It has been improved by Thomas Gaksch and many others since then. Many ideas have been tested on Toga. There is not so much room for improvements because many already have been made.
In my opinion Smaug it is very interesting because the evaluation tweaks are GOOD.
Can you understund what it means GOOD?
GOOD it means that someone spent weeks with testing and frustating hard work on very little details just to try to increase an already very high level engine.
He spent these week not because of glory or proud (otherwise he put his name on a new engine), not beauce he wants to show off he his good, otherwise he doesn't publish the patches along with the sources to show exactly only the work that he as done without messing up with the rest of the code.
He spent this time just because of passion on these chess engine's software, and he published the results of really hard work so that everybody can benefit from these.
I think you really don't understuand what you are laughing about. You are like the bully at high school that laugh of guys just because diffrent from them.
You want respect from Chris and on the other hand impute him not to know how much work it is to improve Glaurung. (Or according to you one can also say Toga, but that makes a difference!) Everyone who works on an engine for more than just weeks knows this.
Do you know how much work it is to improve an own engine made from scratch? I tell you: It's years with testing and hard work on many little details. So what about a little more respect from your side?
Volker