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Re: Gothic Chess Tornado?

Post by Engin » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:33 pm

yes, but there are other then chess, here are existing 2 engines with name Tornado, and computerchess world will be confused then, one can gothic chess other can normal standard chess and chess 960, both are different but used same name.

if we are all call our engines in "Rybka" what will vasik says ??

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Re: Gothic Chess Tornado?

Post by Matthias Gemuh » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:54 pm

Engin wrote:yes, but there are other then chess, here are existing 2 engines with name Tornado, and computerchess world will be confused then, one can gothic chess other can normal standard chess and chess 960, both are different but used same name.

if we are all call our engines in "Rybka" what will vasik says ??

Like my ChessGUI, the other ChessGUI is also a chess interface.
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
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Re: Gothic Chess Tornado?

Post by Christopher Conkie » Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:57 am

Matthias Gemuh wrote:
Engin wrote:yes, but there are other then chess, here are existing 2 engines with name Tornado, and computerchess world will be confused then, one can gothic chess other can normal standard chess and chess 960, both are different but used same name.

if we are all call our engines in "Rybka" what will vasik says ??

Like my ChessGUI, the other ChessGUI is also a chess interface.
I just want to know the strength (in ELO) of the carpet cleaning machine.....

:P

I also want you both to know that Micro-Max and Tornado could have a match.

http://www.vacbags4u.co.uk/tornado_vacu ... bags.shtml

It's in the bag.....so to speak.

:)

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Re: Gothic Chess Tornado?

Post by GothicChessInventor » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:53 am

Engin wrote:i found a chess engine who plays Gothic Chess and name same as my engine Tornado.

who is the author? did he not know there is allready exist this name Tornado by me ?
Hi,

I think the author of the program was from Australia. English was not his first language either, so he must have moved there from somewhere else. I remember it was hard to reach him, since Australian time was so far advanced from the East Coast time zone where I live (same time as New York City).

One game his program played is found here

http://www.gothicchess.com/javagames/db ... 3/game.htm

It made some unusual moves.

What was interesting was that some other program entered also , "Gothic Shredder", and it was not by the author of the Shredder Chess program. He did email me and ask me to have the author of that program change its name, and he did.

I think these programmers were either new to programming and unaware of the existence of other engines, or just "fans" of the engines maybe.

Since there are so many names out there, it is tough to know which has been taken already.

My own chess program, The Sniper, was out in 1987. I know other people have used the name (for other than chess also) but there's not much you can do about it if you don't own the right to the name.

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Re: Gothic Chess Tornado?

Post by Engin » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:21 pm

Hello Ed!

nice gothic game played by GC Tornado,

if where nice anybody tell him the author if he can change his engine name, because the name allready exist by my engine.

i will not change the name of my engine, but if my engine is going to be very strong beaten Rybka or other top 10 engines, then i plan to this comercial sell. then hope i am not became trouble because the name of Tornado, but i can call it TornadoChess.

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Re: Gothic Chess Tornado?

Post by GothicChessInventor » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:51 pm

Hello Engin,

You have a great name for an "engine designer" :)

If your program was created first, you have the right to have the name "Tornado". Since the author of "GothicTornado" cannot be reached, I don't know what to tell you.

You should keep your name and not change it.

He should have to make his name something else.

For now, there's not much we can do. His program is NOT commercial so we don't have to worry about it.

There were some great Gothic Chess games at the Gothic Chess Computer World Championships. Here is one where Gothic Vortex won with 2 Chancellors!

http://www.gothicchess.com/javagames/db ... 1/game.htm

And a checkmate in 27 moves was in this game:

http://www.gothicchess.com/javagames/db ... 7/game.htm

And my favorite game was this mate in 28:

http://www.gothicchess.com/javagames/db ... 1/game.htm

In Gothic Chess there is a much greater range for "original" play. The more clever the evaluation function, the more intersting the outcome.

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Chess Cyclone?

Post by hgm » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:14 am

I can add that the World's number 2 XiangQi engine is called Cyclone, and that it has nothing to do with the Cyclone Chess engine that was released recently:

http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/t ... php?id=184

If I understood it correctly, this Cyclone is a commercial engine. So having the same name for unrelated engines for different games is a quite common phenomenon. The Cyclone we know might actualy use the name illegally, if the company that sells the commercial Cyclone registered the name as a trademark in Europe or U.S. But chances are that it only is interested in Asian markets.

This is what you get when you pick meaningful names. To reduce the risk of name confusion, the XiangQi engine I am currently writing will be called HaQiKi D (pronounced HaCheeKee-Day). :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Gothic Chess Tornado?

Post by Laurens Winkelhagen » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:21 am

Matthias Gemuh wrote:I once googled BigLion Taktix ChessGUI
and found out that all 3 names are being misused for stupid purposes :twisted:

Matthias.
I face that problem too with my engines "Jan Willem" and "Frank-Walter" ;-)

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Re: Gothic Chess Tornado?

Post by Henrik Dinesen » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:53 am

Hi Ed,

Sorry that I derived at the conclusion that you were the author of the Gothic Chess Tornado program ;)

But atleast it opened my eyes for GC, looks interesting, while 960 chess never managed to catch my interest. GC seems to expand the possibilities of true chess, and still remain "fixed and under merely the same rules :)

Best,
Henrik
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Re: Chess Cyclone?

Post by F. Bluemers » Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:55 pm

hgm wrote:I can add that the World's number 2 XiangQi engine is called Cyclone, and that it has nothing to do with the Cyclone Chess engine that was released recently:

http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/t ... php?id=184

If I understood it correctly, this Cyclone is a commercial engine. So having the same name for unrelated engines for different games is a quite common phenomenon. The Cyclone we know might actualy use the name illegally, if the company that sells the commercial Cyclone registered the name as a trademark in Europe or U.S. But chances are that it only is interested in Asian markets.

This is what you get when you pick meaningful names. To reduce the risk of name confusion, the XiangQi engine I am currently writing will be called HaQiKi D (pronounced HaCheeKee-Day). :lol: :lol: :lol:
Some might confuse it with : "Ha!KikiD"
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