[d]r3r1k1/1p3pb1/p1bq2p1/P2p1p1p/3P1P1P/1NPB2P1/1P1Q4/R4RK1 b - - 0 25
bestmove is 25...Re4 !
I am looking for the whole notation (pgn).
Thx in advance
PS: what is the opinion of the ki here?
Did someone know the game Wistanezkis-Suetin (Tallinn 1964)?
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Re: Did someone know the game Wistanezkis-Suetin (Tallinn 19
[Event "URS-chT sf"]
[Site "Tallinn"]
[Date "1964.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Vistinietzki, Itzhak"]
[Black "Suetin, Alexey S"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D00"]
[PlyCount "112"]
[EventDate "1964.11.??"]
[EventType "team"]
[EventRounds "5"]
[EventCountry "URS"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2002.11.25"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. Bf4 Bg7 5. e3 O-O 6. Be2 c5
7. O-O cxd4 8. exd4 Nc6 9. Ne5 Qb6 10. Nxc6 Qxc6 11. Bb5 Qb6
12. a4 Bg4 13. f3 Be6 14. a5 Qd8 15. Be5 a6 16. Bd3 Bh6
17. Bxf6 exf6 18. f4 f5 19. Ne2 Re8 20. Nc1 Bd7 21. Nb3 Bc6
22. Qd2 Qd6 23. g3 Bg7 24. c3 h5 25. h4 Re4 26. Bxe4 fxe4
27. Nc5 Re8 28. Qe3 Bh6 29. Rf2 Kh7 30. b4 Qe7 31. Re1 Bb5
32. Rh2 f6 33. Kf2 Rf8 34. Reh1 Kg7 35. Ke1 Kf7 36. Rg1 Qc7
37. Rf2 b6 38. axb6 Qxb6 39. Rgg2 Ra8 40. Ra2 Qd8 41. Qc1 Qc8
42. Kf2 Bc4 43. Ra1 Kg7 44. Kg1 Kh7 45. Qe3 Qg4 46. Rf2 Ra7
47. Kh2 Bf8 48. Rg2 Bd6 49. Kg1 Rg7 50. Re1 g5 51. hxg5 fxg5
52. fxg5 Rf7 53. g6+ Kxg6 54. Rf2 Bxg3 55. Rg2 Rf3 56. Qc1 Bf2+ 0-1
[Site "Tallinn"]
[Date "1964.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Vistinietzki, Itzhak"]
[Black "Suetin, Alexey S"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D00"]
[PlyCount "112"]
[EventDate "1964.11.??"]
[EventType "team"]
[EventRounds "5"]
[EventCountry "URS"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2002.11.25"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. Bf4 Bg7 5. e3 O-O 6. Be2 c5
7. O-O cxd4 8. exd4 Nc6 9. Ne5 Qb6 10. Nxc6 Qxc6 11. Bb5 Qb6
12. a4 Bg4 13. f3 Be6 14. a5 Qd8 15. Be5 a6 16. Bd3 Bh6
17. Bxf6 exf6 18. f4 f5 19. Ne2 Re8 20. Nc1 Bd7 21. Nb3 Bc6
22. Qd2 Qd6 23. g3 Bg7 24. c3 h5 25. h4 Re4 26. Bxe4 fxe4
27. Nc5 Re8 28. Qe3 Bh6 29. Rf2 Kh7 30. b4 Qe7 31. Re1 Bb5
32. Rh2 f6 33. Kf2 Rf8 34. Reh1 Kg7 35. Ke1 Kf7 36. Rg1 Qc7
37. Rf2 b6 38. axb6 Qxb6 39. Rgg2 Ra8 40. Ra2 Qd8 41. Qc1 Qc8
42. Kf2 Bc4 43. Ra1 Kg7 44. Kg1 Kh7 45. Qe3 Qg4 46. Rf2 Ra7
47. Kh2 Bf8 48. Rg2 Bd6 49. Kg1 Rg7 50. Re1 g5 51. hxg5 fxg5
52. fxg5 Rf7 53. g6+ Kxg6 54. Rf2 Bxg3 55. Rg2 Rf3 56. Qc1 Bf2+ 0-1
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Re: Did someone know the game Wistanezkis-Suetin (Tallinn 19
[Event "URS-chT sf"]
[Site "Tallinn"]
[Date "1964.11.??"]
[Round "0"]
[White "Vistinietzki,Itzhak"]
[Black "Suetin,Alexey S"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco "D00"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.e3 0-0 6.Be2 c5 7.0-0 cxd4 8.exd4 Nc6
9.Ne5 Qb6 10.Nxc6 Qxc6 11.Bb5 Qb6 12.a4 Bg4 13.f3 Be6 14.a5 Qd8 15.Be5 a6 16.Bd3 Bh6
17.Bxf6 exf6 18.f4 f5 19.Ne2 Re8 20.Nc1 Bd7 21.Nb3 Bc6 22.Qd2 Qd6 23.g3 Bg7 24.c3 h5
25.h4 Re4 26.Bxe4 fxe4 27.Nc5 Re8 28.Qe3 Bh6 29.Rf2 Kh7 30.b4 Qe7 31.Re1 Bb5 32.Rh2 f6
33.Kf2 Rf8 34.Reh1 Kg7 35.Ke1 Kf7 36.Rg1 Qc7 37.Rf2 b6 38.axb6 Qxb6 39.Rgg2 Ra8 40.Ra2 Qd8
41.Qc1 Qc8 42.Kf2 Bc4 43.Ra1 Kg7 44.Kg1 Kh7 45.Qe3 Qg4 46.Rf2 Ra7 47.Kh2 Bf8 48.Rg2 Bd6
49.Kg1 Rg7 50.Re1 g5 51.hxg5 fxg5 52.fxg5 Rf7 53.g6+ Kxg6 54.Rf2 Bxg3 55.Rg2 Rf3 56.Qc1 Bf2+
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Analysis by Shredder 11 SE (D945 3.4 GHz, 256 MB hash):
25...Re2 26.Qxe2
+- (5.83) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 0kN
25...Bb5 26.Bxb5 axb5
+/= (0.53) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 0kN
(...)
25...Qc7 26.Nc5 Bb5 27.Bxb5 axb5 28.b4 b6 29.axb6 Qxb6 30.Kh2 Qb8 31.Rxa8 Qxa8 32.Re1 Qc8 33.Qf2 Bf8 34.Re5 Qc6 35.Qf3 Rd8 36.Qe2
+/= (0.63) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 15kN
+/= (0.53) Depth: 14/33 00:00:18 7261kN
25...Bb5 26.Nc5 Qc6 27.Rfe1 Bf8 28.b4 Bxd3 29.Qxd3 Bxc5 30.Rxe8+ Qxe8 31.dxc5 Qe4 32.Rd1 Re8 33.Kh2 Rd8 34.Rd2 f6 35.Qd4 Qxd4 36.cxd4
+/= (0.45) Depth: 14/34 00:00:28 11555kN
+/= (0.34) Depth: 15/39 00:01:14 31735kN
After 25...Re4:
Analysis by Shredder 11 SE:
26.Bxe4 fxe4 27.Nc5 Re8 28.Qe3 Qf6 29.Kh2 Bb5 30.Rfe1 Rb8 31.b3 Qf5 32.Qf2 Bd7 33.Qg2 Be6 34.Rac1 Qg4 35.Kh1 Bd7 36.c4 Bc6 37.Qf2
+- (1.67) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 0kN
+/- (1.25) Depth: 18/40 00:01:00 25465kN
Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit :
25...Qc7 26.Nc5 Re7 27.b4 Bf6 28.Rfe1 Rae8 29.Rxe7 Qxe7 30.Kf2 Kg7 31.Re1 Qxe1+ 32.Qxe1
=/+ (-0.32) Depth: 5 00:00:00
= (-0.11) Depth: 15 00:00:10 493kN
25...Re7 26.Rfe1 Rae8 27.Nc5 Bf6 28.Rxe7 Bxe7 29.Re1 Qd8 30.b4 Bd6 31.Rxe8+ Qxe8 32.Kf2
= (-0.16) Depth: 15 00:00:14 801kN
= (-0.15) Depth: 18 00:01:05 3423kN
Again, after 25...Re4:
Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit :
26.Bxe4 fxe4 27.Nc5 Re8 28.Qe3 Re7 29.Rf2 f5 30.b3 Bf6 31.Re1 Qc7 32.Ra2 Bb5
+/= (0.60) Depth: 8 00:00:00 23kN
+/= (0.60) Depth: 17 00:00:49 2870kN
A well known test position with a very similar solution is:
[D]1r1r2k1/2b1qp1p/b1p3p1/p1p1p3/2P1P3/1PN1BP2/P1Q3PP/R2R2K1 b - - 0 1
(from Liublinsky-Botvinnik 1943)
Analysis by Shredder 11 SE:
1...Rxd1+ 2.Rxd1
+/- (0.99) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 0kN
1...Bc8 2.Rxd8+ Bxd8 3.Rd1
+/= (0.63) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 0kN
+/- (0.89) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00 0kN
(...)
1...Rxd1+ 2.Rxd1 Rd8 3.Rxd8+ Qxd8 4.Qd2 Bc8 5.Qxd8+ Bxd8 6.Bxc5 Kg7 7.Kf2 Kf6 8.Ke3 h5 9.h4
+- (1.45) Depth: 6/18 00:00:00 72kN
+/- (1.33) Depth: 9/26 00:00:01 425kN
1...Rd4 2.Na4 Rbd8 3.Nb2 Bc8 4.Bxd4 cxd4 5.Nd3 f5 6.Rf1 Qh4+ 7.Qf2 Qe7 8.Rab1 f4 9.Qc2 Qf7 10.Kh1 Be6 11.Qd2 Bc8 12.Kg1
+/- (1.29) Depth: 9/26 00:00:01 550kN
+/- (1.20) Depth: 19/43 00:01:43 42623kN
Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit :
1...Kg7 2.Rxd8 Rxd8 3.Na4
+/= (0.40) Depth: 5 00:00:00
+/= (0.49) Depth: 6 00:00:00 6kN
1...Rd6 2.Na4 Rd4
+/= (0.43) Depth: 6 00:00:00 8kN
1...Rd4 2.Na4 h5 3.Bxd4 cxd4 4.Qd2 Kg7 5.Nb2 h4 6.h3 Bc8 7.Nd3 c5
+/= (0.37) Depth: 6 00:00:00 11kN
+/= (0.39) Depth: 15 00:00:38 1921kN
[Site "Tallinn"]
[Date "1964.11.??"]
[Round "0"]
[White "Vistinietzki,Itzhak"]
[Black "Suetin,Alexey S"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco "D00"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.e3 0-0 6.Be2 c5 7.0-0 cxd4 8.exd4 Nc6
9.Ne5 Qb6 10.Nxc6 Qxc6 11.Bb5 Qb6 12.a4 Bg4 13.f3 Be6 14.a5 Qd8 15.Be5 a6 16.Bd3 Bh6
17.Bxf6 exf6 18.f4 f5 19.Ne2 Re8 20.Nc1 Bd7 21.Nb3 Bc6 22.Qd2 Qd6 23.g3 Bg7 24.c3 h5
25.h4 Re4 26.Bxe4 fxe4 27.Nc5 Re8 28.Qe3 Bh6 29.Rf2 Kh7 30.b4 Qe7 31.Re1 Bb5 32.Rh2 f6
33.Kf2 Rf8 34.Reh1 Kg7 35.Ke1 Kf7 36.Rg1 Qc7 37.Rf2 b6 38.axb6 Qxb6 39.Rgg2 Ra8 40.Ra2 Qd8
41.Qc1 Qc8 42.Kf2 Bc4 43.Ra1 Kg7 44.Kg1 Kh7 45.Qe3 Qg4 46.Rf2 Ra7 47.Kh2 Bf8 48.Rg2 Bd6
49.Kg1 Rg7 50.Re1 g5 51.hxg5 fxg5 52.fxg5 Rf7 53.g6+ Kxg6 54.Rf2 Bxg3 55.Rg2 Rf3 56.Qc1 Bf2+
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Analysis by Shredder 11 SE (D945 3.4 GHz, 256 MB hash):
25...Re2 26.Qxe2
+- (5.83) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 0kN
25...Bb5 26.Bxb5 axb5
+/= (0.53) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 0kN
(...)
25...Qc7 26.Nc5 Bb5 27.Bxb5 axb5 28.b4 b6 29.axb6 Qxb6 30.Kh2 Qb8 31.Rxa8 Qxa8 32.Re1 Qc8 33.Qf2 Bf8 34.Re5 Qc6 35.Qf3 Rd8 36.Qe2
+/= (0.63) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 15kN
+/= (0.53) Depth: 14/33 00:00:18 7261kN
25...Bb5 26.Nc5 Qc6 27.Rfe1 Bf8 28.b4 Bxd3 29.Qxd3 Bxc5 30.Rxe8+ Qxe8 31.dxc5 Qe4 32.Rd1 Re8 33.Kh2 Rd8 34.Rd2 f6 35.Qd4 Qxd4 36.cxd4
+/= (0.45) Depth: 14/34 00:00:28 11555kN
+/= (0.34) Depth: 15/39 00:01:14 31735kN
After 25...Re4:
Analysis by Shredder 11 SE:
26.Bxe4 fxe4 27.Nc5 Re8 28.Qe3 Qf6 29.Kh2 Bb5 30.Rfe1 Rb8 31.b3 Qf5 32.Qf2 Bd7 33.Qg2 Be6 34.Rac1 Qg4 35.Kh1 Bd7 36.c4 Bc6 37.Qf2
+- (1.67) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 0kN
+/- (1.25) Depth: 18/40 00:01:00 25465kN
Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit :
25...Qc7 26.Nc5 Re7 27.b4 Bf6 28.Rfe1 Rae8 29.Rxe7 Qxe7 30.Kf2 Kg7 31.Re1 Qxe1+ 32.Qxe1
=/+ (-0.32) Depth: 5 00:00:00
= (-0.11) Depth: 15 00:00:10 493kN
25...Re7 26.Rfe1 Rae8 27.Nc5 Bf6 28.Rxe7 Bxe7 29.Re1 Qd8 30.b4 Bd6 31.Rxe8+ Qxe8 32.Kf2
= (-0.16) Depth: 15 00:00:14 801kN
= (-0.15) Depth: 18 00:01:05 3423kN
Again, after 25...Re4:
Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit :
26.Bxe4 fxe4 27.Nc5 Re8 28.Qe3 Re7 29.Rf2 f5 30.b3 Bf6 31.Re1 Qc7 32.Ra2 Bb5
+/= (0.60) Depth: 8 00:00:00 23kN
+/= (0.60) Depth: 17 00:00:49 2870kN
A well known test position with a very similar solution is:
[D]1r1r2k1/2b1qp1p/b1p3p1/p1p1p3/2P1P3/1PN1BP2/P1Q3PP/R2R2K1 b - - 0 1
(from Liublinsky-Botvinnik 1943)
Analysis by Shredder 11 SE:
1...Rxd1+ 2.Rxd1
+/- (0.99) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 0kN
1...Bc8 2.Rxd8+ Bxd8 3.Rd1
+/= (0.63) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 0kN
+/- (0.89) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00 0kN
(...)
1...Rxd1+ 2.Rxd1 Rd8 3.Rxd8+ Qxd8 4.Qd2 Bc8 5.Qxd8+ Bxd8 6.Bxc5 Kg7 7.Kf2 Kf6 8.Ke3 h5 9.h4
+- (1.45) Depth: 6/18 00:00:00 72kN
+/- (1.33) Depth: 9/26 00:00:01 425kN
1...Rd4 2.Na4 Rbd8 3.Nb2 Bc8 4.Bxd4 cxd4 5.Nd3 f5 6.Rf1 Qh4+ 7.Qf2 Qe7 8.Rab1 f4 9.Qc2 Qf7 10.Kh1 Be6 11.Qd2 Bc8 12.Kg1
+/- (1.29) Depth: 9/26 00:00:01 550kN
+/- (1.20) Depth: 19/43 00:01:43 42623kN
Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit :
1...Kg7 2.Rxd8 Rxd8 3.Na4
+/= (0.40) Depth: 5 00:00:00
+/= (0.49) Depth: 6 00:00:00 6kN
1...Rd6 2.Na4 Rd4
+/= (0.43) Depth: 6 00:00:00 8kN
1...Rd4 2.Na4 h5 3.Bxd4 cxd4 4.Qd2 Kg7 5.Nb2 h4 6.h3 Bc8 7.Nd3 c5
+/= (0.37) Depth: 6 00:00:00 11kN
+/= (0.39) Depth: 15 00:00:38 1921kN
Regards, Mike
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