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I cant see no option to download the engine?? Anyone ever heard of this engine before??

Thanks in advance
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Taken from the site:
After a month of happy coding, I have now a full working UCI chess engine wich ranges around 2000 Elo. That's a good start for a first try, though I probably won't publish any binary until the engine reaches at least 2500 Elo.
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Hello,

sorry, but my engine is currently being rewritten using bitboards, and the current version is too weak (around 2000 Elo) to be published. I mostly have time to write code in the summer, so my pace is much slower the rest of the year.

Olivier Deville can testify it exists, works, and is stable, though :wink:
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JuLieN wrote:Hello,

sorry, but my engine is currently being rewritten using bitboards, and the current version is too weak (around 2000 Elo) to be published. I mostly have time to write code in the summer, so my pace is much slower the rest of the year.

Olivier Deville can testify it exists, works, and is stable, though :wink:
Can I also verify that it exists?? :lol: You can send it to me at apocalypse1112 at aol.com, then I will tell the whole world that it exists. :wink:
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Not quite a good try! :lol:

Nope, won't release anything before it reaches a decent Elo. Expect a first public version for this summer. Besides, you'd be deceived if I would now, as there are hundreds of stronger engines.
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JuLieN wrote:Not quite a good try! :lol:

Nope, won't release anything before it reaches a decent Elo. Expect a first public version for this summer. Besides, you'd be deceived if I would now, as there are hundreds of stronger engines.

Hi Julien,
do you really believe that people shall use your engine because of its strength ? If so, it better be above 2900 elo.
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Matthias,

most of us don't make our engines with the goal that they'll be used by humans (as humans would only use Rybka for its strength or Hiarcs for its human-style play), but instead that they'll compete decently in engines tournament, don't we? :)

I just don't want mine to be in the last division of the tournaments. I don't dream of it being a top-engine, as I have no time (and maybe not the talent) for that, but I want it to be a decent engine anyway.

Currently, in 3+2 blitz timing, my engine typically search up to 8 plys when most of other engines search 10+ plies (with the best ones reaching 15 plies). That's a huge gap and that's the reason why I'm rewriting it using bitboards. With my current design, every in-check test and position evaluation is too time-costly. It's far from being the "predator" it's meant to be :? Besides, as it was my first try, my code looks like spaguetties and it makes it very difficult to implement new algorithms (for exemple, I want to add a null-move pruning).

Ok, some engines only search 5-6 plies in the same time, but they are in the last divisions, what I don't want for mine.

Come on! I'm not the only one keeping his engine private except for a few testers!
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JuLieN wrote: Ok, some engines only search 5-6 plies in the same time, but they are in the last divisions, what I don't want for mine.

O.K. :(
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Matthias Gemuh wrote:
JuLieN wrote:Not quite a good try! :lol:

Nope, won't release anything before it reaches a decent Elo. Expect a first public version for this summer. Besides, you'd be deceived if I would now, as there are hundreds of stronger engines.

Hi Julien,
do you really believe that people shall use your engine because of its strength ? If so, it better be above 2900 elo.
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Quite a few of us like to try out the weaker engines. :wink:
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Haha :D All right, the day I'll decide that Pred reached a good level enough, I'll release the old version too, so you'll understand why I prefered waiting a little bit. :wink:
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