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sje wrote:2007 World Computer Rapid Chess Championships: Final Results

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 1 Rybka          13.0  14
 2 Hiarcs8x       12.0  14
 3 IkarusX        10.0  14
 4 Erdo             10.0  13
 5 DIEP              9.5  14
 6 TerraPi           8.5  14
 7 Frenzee          8.0  14
 8 Ktulu              8.0  14
 9 Rascal            8.0  14
10 thebaron        8.0  14
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George Tsavdaris wrote:

sje wrote:2007 World Computer Rapid Chess Championships: Final Results

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 1 Rybka          13.0  14
 2 Hiarcs8x       12.0  14
 3 IkarusX        10.0  14
 4 Erdo             10.0  13
 5 DIEP              9.5  14
 6 TerraPi           8.5  14
 7 Frenzee          8.0  14
 8 Ktulu              8.0  14
 9 Rascal            8.0  14
10 thebaron        8.0  14
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Oh, Rybka again!
This time was close and Hiarcs was only one step behind.

Why some engines(Erdo for example) have 13 games instead of 14?
Where did you find that list?
In the official page they don't make such a good job updating it, so they still have the results of the first 8 rounds and no games.....
(http://www.taccl.org/2007Presidents.html)

1. Rybka (13.0)
2. Hiarcs (12.0)
3. Ikarus, Zap!Chess (10.0)
4. Diep (9.5)
5. Alaric (8.5)
6. Deep Frenzee, Ktulu, Rascal, The Baron, Arasan, Dirty (8.0)
7. Quark, Crafty, Weid, Berta, Mediocre (7.5)
8. Petir, Symbolic, Now, HfC, EveAnn (7.0)
9. LearningLemming, Danasah, Tinker, Horizon, Deuterium, Neurosis, Parrot (6.5)
10. Joker, Telepath, Bird, MicroMaX (6.0)
11. Homer, Buzz (5.5)
12. Clarabit, Timea (5.0)
13. Matilde, Roce (2.5)
14. Vicki (1.5)
15. NoonianChess (0.0)

Harvey Williamson wrote:
Yes a close match until we messed up in final round. Rybka and Hiarcs both had 12/13 going into round 14 and Hiarcs had beaten Rybka then we got a horrible opening and lost so missed the draw with Rybka.

as Hiarcs is not invited to be one of the elite 4 in Mainz even though we head the CCRL 960 ratings list. The organisers tell me the sponsors dont want Hiarcs. The sponsors tell me a WCCC should be open to all so the best may win.

George Tsavdaris wrote:

Harvey Williamson wrote:
Yes a close match until we messed up in final round. Rybka and Hiarcs both had 12/13 going into round 14 and Hiarcs had beaten Rybka then we got a horrible opening and lost so missed the draw with Rybka.

In a case of a draw what would happen?
Hiarcs would win because it has beat Rybka or a tiebreak would occur?

as Hiarcs is not invited to be one of the elite 4 in Mainz even though we head the CCRL 960 ratings list. The organisers tell me the sponsors dont want Hiarcs. The sponsors tell me a WCCC should be open to all so the best may win.

The organizers told you that the sponsors don't want Hiarcs?
And the sponsors told you that they wish no invitations should be done in the tournament they sponsor? And yet it is an invitational tournament!

Crazy story. Very odd.....
This invitational rule makes the tournament immediately not a tournament that the winner can claim anything important.....
He may claim that he beat the participants of the tournament but nothing more. Not that he won the world title or anything world-related.....

Also i can't really find a reason why the sponsors don't want Hiarcs to participate. Hiarcs would make their tournament much more interesting so that would be good for them.
And anyway why not make it an open tournament in the first place?

Ugh! They will eventually learn. From their mistakes.....

Steve B wrote:hi Harvey

nice tournament and a very close finish


while i realize of course that i am in the minority here(personally i have no interest in PC Engine vs Engine matches)
i do have an interest in PC engine vs Human matches

it seems that Kaufman will be taking up my proposal to have GM Benjamin play a DRAW odds match with Rybka for a possible rematch in Sept 07(too late to change the terms of the current match especially with Kaufman away on vacation )

are there any plans for Hiarcs to play against any strong GM's (hopefully without material odds)in the foreseeable future?

Best Regards
Steve

Harvey Williamson wrote:

Steve B wrote:hi Harvey

nice tournament and a very close finish


while i realize of course that i am in the minority here(personally i have no interest in PC Engine vs Engine matches)
i do have an interest in PC engine vs Human matches

it seems that Kaufman will be taking up my proposal to have GM Benjamin play a DRAW odds match with Rybka for a possible rematch in Sept 07(too late to change the terms of the current match especially with Kaufman away on vacation )

are there any plans for Hiarcs to play against any strong GM's (hopefully without material odds)in the foreseeable future?

Best Regards
Steve

Hi Steve,

There are lots of ideas. It would be nice to organise something that gets publicity outside this small Computer Chess community.

I must admit all this pawn odds stuff does not interest me much and the writing may have been on the wall several years ago when Hiarcs on relatively slow hardware defeated an IM with a similar score to the one Rybka beat Ehlvest with. The IM was about 150 elo weaker than Ehlvest but surely Rybka with modern hardware is more than 150 elo stronger than the Hiarcs that played that match. The match was at classical slow time controls.

http://www.gtryfon.demon.co.uk/bcc/tutor2/hiarcs.html
http://www.hiarcs.com/hiarcs_milestones.htm

and also palm hiarcs has a fantastic record v GMs

http://www.hiarcs.com/palm_hiarcs.htm#phvpb

http://www.hiarcs.com/palm_hiarcs.htm#phvsv

so the superiority of computers may already have been proven!?

The interesting thing at the moment is Freestyle/Advanced Chess. So I think it might be nice to get some money to organise an advanced Chess match.

I propose team 1 Rybka + Gm + IM
team 2 Hiarcs + Gm + IM

both teams would have access to identiacl hardware say a qx6700 quad core running the program. This might be an event that will get publicity outside our small closed computer chess world.

Best Wishes,

Harvey