How good is Fruit 2.2.1 vs Rybka 2.3.1 or Hiarcs 11.1?

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How good is Fruit 2.2.1 vs Rybka 2.3.1 or Hiarcs 11.1?

Post by Broombox »

Say, in playing or analysing games? It's true Fruit hasn't been updated for very long, so it must be somewhat worse than the former chess engines.
nuff

Re: How good is Fruit 2.2.1 vs Rybka 2.3.1 or Hiarcs 11.1?

Post by nuff »

In my opinion (and I say this advisably look at the rating lists) :-

A grade programs :-
- Rybka, Spike, Fritz, Toga, Hiarcs, Junior, Shredder, Zap

B grade programs
- Crafty, Delfi, Fruit, Naum

While the programs in B are GM strength, the ones in A excel. Your mileage may vary depending on your tests/matches etc.
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Re: How good is Fruit 2.2.1 vs Rybka 2.3.1 or Hiarcs 11.1?

Post by S.Taylor »

nuff wrote:In my opinion (and I say this advisably look at the rating lists) :-

A grade programs :-
- Rybka, Spike, Fritz, Toga, Hiarcs, Junior, Shredder, Zap

B grade programs
- Crafty, Delfi, Fruit, Naum

While the programs in B are GM strength, the ones in A excel. Your mileage may vary depending on your tests/matches etc.
You mean that Fritz is clearly stronger than Hiarcs and Shredder? (let's leave Toga as a buffer zone, and all those whioh come after, are in approximate order of strength, being weaker than Fritz?)
nuff

Re: How good is Fruit 2.2.1 vs Rybka 2.3.1 or Hiarcs 11.1?

Post by nuff »

S.Taylor wrote:
nuff wrote:In my opinion (and I say this advisably look at the rating lists) :-

A grade programs :-
- Rybka, Spike, Fritz, Toga, Hiarcs, Junior, Shredder, Zap

B grade programs
- Crafty, Delfi, Fruit, Naum

While the programs in B are GM strength, the ones in A excel. Your mileage may vary depending on your tests/matches etc.
You mean that Fritz is clearly stronger than Hiarcs and Shredder? (let's leave Toga as a buffer zone, and all those whioh come after, are in approximate order of strength, being weaker than Fritz?)
They are not in order of strength merely A and B. I probably should have put the list alphabetically since it is my opinion and not based on any rating.
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Re: How good is Fruit 2.2.1 vs Rybka 2.3.1 or Hiarcs 11.1?

Post by Rubinus »

nuff wrote:In my opinion (and I say this advisably look at the rating lists) :-

A grade programs :-
- Rybka, Spike, Fritz, Toga, Hiarcs, Junior, Shredder, Zap

B grade programs
- Crafty, Delfi, Fruit, Naum

While the programs in B are GM strength, the ones in A excel. Your mileage may vary depending on your tests/matches etc.
My choice:
A - Rybka :D
B - Zap!chess Zanz./64*, Toga, Loop*, Hiarcs, Naum
C - Shredder, Junior, Fritz, Fruit, Spike*
D - CM10, Ktulu, Smarthink*, Gandalf, CT2007.1
E - Delfi, WildCat, Scorpio etc.
? - new Sjeng (C or D?)

* my minions
GS

Re: How good is Fruit 2.2.1 vs Rybka 2.3.1 or Hiarcs 11.1?

Post by GS »

nuff wrote:In my opinion (and I say this advisably look at the rating lists) :-

A grade programs :-
- Rybka, Spike, Fritz, Toga, Hiarcs, Junior, Shredder, Zap

B grade programs
- Crafty, Delfi, Fruit, Naum

While the programs in B are GM strength, the ones in A excel. Your mileage may vary depending on your tests/matches etc.
Fruit and Naum are completely wrong classified in 'your opinion'...

Guenther