Vitruvius moved to commercial...

[geots]

If you were to try it, DON'T pay any attention to his "T for turbo" executable for blitz. It is experimental. I experimented and the "T exe" is not worth a shit.


gts

[Werewolf]

Just spell this out for me: What's so special about Deep Saros? Is it a particularly strong derivative?

But look, I can't deal with all of it. I was told Vas said the Ippos came from Rybka. Fabien says Rybka came from Fruit. Houdini is supposed to have come from RobboLito and Ivanhoe. Houdart, I think, says Strelka 5 came from Houdini. I am hearing talk out loud about Loop and quietly about Naum. You see, I am already getting a migraine.

So I made myself a deal. When they programmed them- I would run them. The hell with origins. I can't prove anything either way about anything.

gts

I feel the same way. I know cloning is important, I care about right and wrong, it's just at the end of the day I'm an end-user and I can't prove anything.

I'm testing Deep Saros now, the tactical results will be up in the Rybka forum in March after Komodo 4 MP comes out and HIARCS 14.

[Robert Flesher]

The name sounds like a virus

Where is the beta version?

There was a current version out for over a year- Vitruvius 0.83b. But it looks like he removed that download. You haven't missed a thing- but I will be more than happy to send it to you.


george

Sure, I will appreciate that

Thanks

You will have to mail me here at geotsp8@yahoo.com and give me an address to send it to. Understand it is not even on the same planet with DeepSaros. But you can run it yourself and decide.


gts

Just made a match 1' IvanHoe 46b - Vitruvius HEM x64.
IvanHoe ruled. Vitruvius sacrifices material without compensation in most cases. I know Vitruvius its not a blitz or bullet specialist but this result is no exciting.

Regards

Do you really expect to see it's best/exciting play in 1 min games? Test Komodo the same way and you will get the same result. Can you say Komodo is weak or not exciting? I have it playing Vitruvius @ 25 min games and it is killing Komodo! Vitruvius understands the power of passed pawns better than other engines, and wins many game do to that fact. Those material sacs you speak of are proving to be nothing short of brilliant.

It's the same old story on this forum. Some tester plays a series of 1 min games, sees the results, and says, "it's weak". So I will make to own claim, weak human players making silly judgements! I know that does not seem fair right? But if the shoe fits.......

Yawning regards



Maybe have a looksee at these games.





[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.17"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Black "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C69"]
[PlyCount "274"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Bxc6 dxc6 5. O-O f6 6. d4 exd4 7. Nxd4 c5 8.
Ne2 Qxd1 9. Rxd1 Bd7 10. Nbc3 O-O-O 11. Be3 Re8 12. Rd2 Bc6 13. Rad1 b6 14. f3
Ne7 15. Nf4 Ng6 16. Nh5 Ne5 17. b3 c4 18. Nd5 Kb7 19. Kf2 a5 20. g4 Rg8 21.
Nhf4 Bd6 22. h4 Rgf8 23. Nh5 Rf7 24. Ng3 g6 25. Kg2 a4 26. Kf2 Bxd5 27. Rxd5
axb3 28. axb3 Ra8 29. Ne2 Ra2 30. R5d2 Bb4 31. Nc1 cxb3 32. Nxa2 bxa2 33. Ra1
f5 34. exf5 gxf5 35. Rd5 fxg4 36. f4 Kc6 37. Rdd1 Ng6 38. Rxa2 Nxf4 39. Bxf4
Rxf4+ 40. Kg2 Bd6 41. h5 g3 42. Rf1 Rh4 43. Rh1 Re4 44. c3 Kc5 45. h6 b5 46.
Rh5+ Kc4 47. Rg5 Rh4 48. Ra6 Kxc3 49. Rxb5 Rxh6 50. Kf3 Rf6+ 51. Ke4 Kc4 52.
Rb1 Rf4+ 53. Ke3 Rf5 54. Rc6+ Kd5 55. Rb5+ Ke6 56. Rxf5 Kxf5 57. Kf3 Kg5 58.
Rc4 h5 59. Kg2 Bf4 60. Kf3 Be5 61. Re4 Kf6 62. Rh4 Kg5 63. Re4 Kf5 64. Rh4 Kg6
65. Re4 Bd6 66. Kg2 Kf5 67. Rh4 c6 68. Kf3 Kg5 69. Rd4 Bc5 70. Rc4 Bf2 71. Rxc6
h4 72. Kg2 Be3 73. Rc4 Bf4 74. Kh3 Kf5 75. Rc5+ Kg6 76. Kxh4 g2 77. Kh3 g1=R
78. Kh4 Kf6 79. Rc8 Kf5 80. Rf8+ Ke4 81. Rf7 Be5 82. Kh5 Rg8 83. Kh6 Rg2 84.
Kh7 Kd4 85. Rd7+ Ke3 86. Rf7 Ke4 87. Kh6 Rg8 88. Kh7 Rg1 89. Kh6 Rg3 90. Kh5
Ke3 91. Re7 Kf4 92. Rf7+ Ke4 93. Kh6 Bb2 94. Kh5 Bd4 95. Kh6 Rg2 96. Kh7 Kd5
97. Rd7+ Ke5 98. Rg7 Rh2+ 99. Kg6 Ke6 100. Rg8 Rg2+ 101. Kh7 Rc2 102. Rg3 Be5
103. Rf3 Rg2 104. Kh6 Bf6 105. Kh5 Ke5 106. Rf1 Rg5+ 107. Kh6 Ke6 108. Rf4 Kf7
109. Rf3 Ra5 110. Rf4 Rc5 111. Rf1 Re5 112. Rf4 Rb5 113. Rf3 Rg5 114. Ra3 Rf5
115. Rh3 Bg7+ 116. Kh7 Bb2 117. Rh2 Bc1 118. Rh3 Rf6 119. Kh8 Bg5 120. Kh7 Rf4
121. Rh1 Rf2 122. Rh5 Ra2 123. Rh3 Rd2 124. Rh1 Bf6 125. Kh6 Rd8 126. Kh5 Rh8+
127. Kg4 Rxh1 128. Kf3 Rc1 129. Ke3 Rc3+ 130. Ke2 Ke6 131. Kf2 Kd5 132. Kf1 Rc2
133. Ke1 Bc3+ 134. Kf1 Ke4 135. Kg1 Kf3 136. Kh1 Be5 137. Kg1 Rc1# 0-1


[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.17"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Black "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B90"]
[PlyCount "176"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. Qd2
Nbd7 9. O-O-O b5 10. f3 Be7 11. g4 b4 12. Nd5 Bxd5 13. exd5 Nb6 14. Qxb4 Nfxd5
15. Bxb6 Nxb6 16. f4 d5 17. Qc3 O-O 18. fxe5 Rc8 19. Qa5 Qc7 20. Bd3 Qxe5 21.
Qxb6 Bf6 22. Rdf1 Qxb2+ 23. Kd1 Rc3 24. Qe3 Rfc8 25. Rxf6 Rxc2 26. Bxc2 Qxc2+
27. Ke1 gxf6 28. Rf1 Qxa2 29. Nd2 Qb2 30. Kf2 Rc2 31. Ke2 Rc4 32. Rb1 Qc2 33.
Qh6 Re4+ 34. Kf2 Re8 35. Rf1 a5 36. Kg1 Re6 37. Nf3 Qe4 38. Qc1 a4 39. Qc3 Kg7
40. h3 Qc4 41. Qxc4 dxc4 42. Ra1 Ra6 43. Ra3 f5 44. gxf5 Kf6 45. Nd4 Rd6 46.
Ne2 Ra6 47. Ng3 Ke5 48. Kf2 Kd5 49. Ke2 Kc5 50. Ne4+ Kb4 51. Ra1 a3 52. Rb1+
Ka5 53. Rb7 Rb6 54. Ra7+ Ra6 55. Rxa6+ Kxa6 56. Nc3 Kb6 57. Kd1 h5 58. Kd2 Kc6
59. Ke2 Kc5 60. Kd1 f6 61. Kd2 h4 62. Kd1 Kb4 63. Kc2 Kc5 64. Ne4+ Kd5 65.
Nxf6+ Ke5 66. Ng4+ Kxf5 67. Nh6+ Kf4 68. Nf7 Kf3 69. Ng5+ Ke3 70. Kc3 Kf4 71.
Ne6+ Kf3 72. Ng5+ Kg3 73. Kc2 Kf2 74. Ne4+ Ke2 75. Kc3 Kf3 76. Ng5+ Kg2 77. Kc2
Kg3 78. Kc3 Kf4 79. Nf7 a2 80. Kb2 a1=Q+ 81. Kxa1 Kg3 82. Ng5 Kf4 83. Nh7 Kf3
84. Ka2 Kg3 85. Ng5 Kf4 86. Nh7 Kg3 87. Ng5 Kf4 88. Nh7 Kg3 1/2-1/2


[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Black "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C84"]
[PlyCount "134"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O b5 6. Bb3 Bb7 7. d3 Be7 8. Nc3
O-O 9. Nd5 Na5 10. Nxe7+ Qxe7 11. Nh4 Nxb3 12. Nf5 Qe6 13. axb3 d5 14. f3 Ne8
15. Be3 Nd6 16. Bc5 Rfd8 17. Bxd6 cxd6 18. Qe1 g6 19. Nh6+ Kg7 20. Qd2 Rf8 21.
h3 f5 22. exf5 gxf5 23. Qg5+ Kh8 24. g4 Rf6 25. gxf5 Rxf5 26. Nxf5 Rg8 27.
Qxg8+ Kxg8 28. Ng3 Qxh3 29. Rf2 Kf8 30. Ne2 Qh6 31. Kg2 Qg5+ 32. Kf1 Ke7 33.
Ke1 h5 34. f4 Qh4 35. b4 e4 36. dxe4 dxe4 37. Ra3 Bc8 38. Nc3 Kf7 39. Nd5 Bg4
40. Ne3 Bf3 41. c4 bxc4 42. Rc3 Qh1+ 43. Rf1 Qh2 44. Rf2 Qg1+ 45. Rf1 Qg3+ 46.
Rf2 h4 47. Nxc4 Qg1+ 48. Rf1 Qd4 49. Ne3 Qxb4 50. Kf2 Qxb2+ 51. Rc2 Qd4 52. Re1
a5 53. Rc7+ Kf6 54. Rc2 a4 55. Kg1 a3 56. Kh2 Qa7 57. Ng2 Qa4 58. Ra2 Bxg2 59.
Kxg2 Qb3 60. Rea1 Qg3+ 61. Kh1 h3 62. Rc2 d5 63. Rg1 Qf3+ 64. Kh2 e3 65. Rg3
Qd1 66. Rc6+ Kf5 67. Rg1 Qf3 0-1

[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Black "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B80"]
[PlyCount "95"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 8. a3
Bb7 9. Qd2 Nbd7 10. g4 Nb6 11. O-O-O Rc8 12. Kb1 Nfd7 13. Rg1 h6 14. f4 Nc4 15.
Bxc4 Rxc4 16. Nde2 Be7 17. Ng3 Qc7 18. Bd4 O-O 19. g5 hxg5 20. h4 g4 21. Bxg7
Rc8 22. f5 Kxg7 23. fxe6 Rc5 24. exd7 Qxd7 25. Nf5+ Rxf5 26. Rxg4+ Rg5 27.
Rxg5+ Bxg5 28. Qxg5+ Kf8 29. e5 d5 30. Ne4 Qc6 31. Nd6 Qxc2+ 32. Ka2 Qg6 33.
Nxb7 Qxg5 34. hxg5 Ke7 35. Rxd5 Rc4 36. Nc5 a5 37. Nd3 a4 38. Rxb5 Rd4 39. Nc5
Rg4 40. Rb7+ Ke8 41. e6 fxe6 42. Nxe6 Rg2 43. Nc5 Rxg5 44. Nxa4 Rg2 45. Nb6 Rg5
46. a4 Kd8 47. Rd7+ Ke8 48. Ra7 1-0


[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Black "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C78"]
[PlyCount "55"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O b5 6. Bb3 Bb7 7. Re1 Bc5 8. c3
d6 9. d4 Bb6 10. a4 O-O 11. Bg5 h6 12. Bh4 g5 13. Bg3 Re8 14. dxe5 Nxe5 15. Bc2
Nc4 16. b3 Ne5 17. Nbd2 Nxf3+ 18. Qxf3 Nd7 19. axb5 axb5 20. Rxa8 Qxa8 21. b4
Ne5 22. Bxe5 Rxe5 23. Bb3 Qf8 24. Qf6 Qg7 25. Qd8+ Qf8 26. Qf6 Qg7 27. Qd8+ Qf8
28. Qf6 1/2-1/2



[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Black "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B92"]
[PlyCount "131"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. Be2
Be7 9. Qd3 Nc6 10. a3 O-O 11. O-O d5 12. exd5 Nxd5 13. Nxd5 Qxd5 14. Rad1 Qxd3
15. Bxd3 f5 16. f3 g6 17. Nc5 Bf7 18. g4 f4 19. Bf2 Nd4 20. Bxd4 exd4 21. Nxb7
Ra7 22. Na5 Rc8 23. Kg2 Bd8 24. Nb3 Bf6 25. Nd2 a5 26. Ne4 Be7 27. a4 Kg7 28.
Rf2 Rac7 29. Re2 Re8 30. Nf2 Bf6 31. Rxe8 Bxe8 32. b3 Bf7 33. Rb1 Rd7 34. b4
axb4 35. a5 Ra7 36. a6 Be7 37. Re1 h6 38. Re4 Bf6 39. h4 Rd7 40. h5 g5 41. Re1
Ra7 42. Ne4 Be7 43. Nd2 Kf6 44. Nb3 Bd5 45. Ra1 Bxb3 46. cxb3 Ke5 47. Rc1 Kd6
48. Rc8 Bf6 49. Kf1 Be5 50. Ke2 Rc7 51. Rb8 Kc6 52. Kd2 Ra7 53. Rxb4 Kc7 54.
Rc4+ Kd7 55. Rc5 Bf6 56. Bb5+ Kd8 57. Rc6 Bg7 58. b4 Bf8 59. Kd3 Bxb4 60. Rxh6
Kc7 61. Rg6 Ra8 62. h6 Rh8 63. a7 Bc5 64. Rc6+ Kb7 65. Rxc5 Kxa7 66. Rc6 1-0

[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Black "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B94"]
[PlyCount "70"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 Nbd7 7. f4 e5 8. Nf5
Qb6 9. Qd2 Qxb2 10. Rb1 Qa3 11. Be2 h6 12. Bh4 exf4 13. O-O g6 14. Rxf4 g5 15.
Rb3 Qa5 16. Nxd6+ Bxd6 17. Qxd6 gxf4 18. Ra3 Qb6+ 19. Qxb6 Nxb6 20. Bxf6 Rg8
21. Rb3 Nd7 22. Nd5 b5 23. Rd3 Rg6 24. e5 Rb8 25. Bh4 Rg5 26. Bxg5 hxg5 27. Rh3
Bb7 28. c4 bxc4 29. Rh8+ Nf8 30. Nf6+ Ke7 31. Bxc4 Bc6 32. Ng8+ Kd7 33. Nf6+
Ke7 34. Ng8+ Kd7 35. Nf6+ Ke7 1/2-1/2


[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Black "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B80"]
[PlyCount "143"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 8. a3
Nbd7 9. Qd2 h5 10. Be2 Bb7 11. O-O-O Be7 12. Kb1 O-O 13. h3 h4 14. Bf2 Nc5 15.
Qe3 Nfd7 16. g4 g5 17. Rhe1 Ne5 18. Qd2 Ncd7 19. Be3 Nb6 20. b3 Rc8 21. Bf1 Re8
22. f4 gxf4 23. Bxf4 Qc7 24. Na2 Ng6 25. Bh2 Qc5 26. Nb4 Bg5 27. Qe2 d5 28. e5
Nd7 29. Qf2 Rf8 30. Bg2 Bh6 31. Kb2 Bg5 32. Kb1 Bh6 33. Kb2 Bg5 34. Re2 Be7 35.
Qe3 Rfe8 36. Rf1 Bd8 37. Ref2 Rf8 38. c3 Be7 39. Rc2 a5 40. Qh6 axb4 41. axb4
Qb6 42. Bg1 Bg5 43. Qxg5 Ndxe5 44. Qh6 Qa6 45. Ra1 Qd6 46. Bf1 Ra8 47. Nxb5
Rxa1 48. Nxd6 Rxf1 49. Ba7 Nd3+ 50. Ka3 d4 51. Nxf7 Be4 52. Ng5 R1f7 53. Bb6
Ra8+ 54. Ba5 Rfa7 55. Ka2 Nxb4+ 56. cxb4 Bxc2 57. Kb2 Bd3 58. Nxe6 Rf7 59. Qd2
Re8 60. Nxd4 Ne5 61. Ka3 Rf1 62. b5 Rf7 63. b6 Rd7 64. Qg5+ Rg7 65. Qxh4 Be4
66. Nf5 Bxf5 67. gxf5 Ra8 68. Qa4 Rf7 69. Qb5 Nd7 70. b7 Rb8 71. Bc7 Re8 72.
Qc4 1-0

[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Black "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B90"]
[PlyCount "255"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. h3 e5 7. Nde2 h5 8. g3
Be6 9. Bg2 Be7 10. O-O Qc8 11. Kh2 Nbd7 12. a4 O-O 13. b3 h4 14. g4 Qc7 15. Kg1
Rfe8 16. Bg5 Nh7 17. Bxe7 Rxe7 18. Qd2 Rd8 19. a5 Ree8 20. Kh1 Nhf6 21. Rfe1
Nf8 22. Nd5 Bxd5 23. exd5 Rc8 24. c4 Ng6 25. Kg1 Qd8 26. Rac1 Re7 27. Rc2 b6
28. axb6 Qxb6 29. Rb1 Rb7 30. b4 a5 31. b5 Rbc7 32. Rbc1 Nd7 33. Be4 Ne7 34.
Bd3 a4 35. Nc3 Rxc4 36. Bxc4 Rxc4 37. Ne2 Rc5 38. Qb4 Rxb5 39. Qxa4 Nf8 40. Nc3
Rb4 41. Qe8 Neg6 42. Qc6 Qd8 43. Ne2 Ne7 44. Qa6 Rb8 45. Kh2 Ra8 46. Qc4 Nh7
47. Rb2 Nf6 48. Rb5 Qd7 49. Kg1 Rc8 50. Qd3 Rxc1+ 51. Nxc1 g5 52. Ne2 Kg7 53.
Kg2 Qa7 54. Qe3 Qa4 55. Qxg5+ Ng6 56. Rb2 Nxd5 57. Qf5 Ndf4+ 58. Nxf4 Nxf4+ 59.
Kh2 Qa3 60. Qg5+ Ng6 61. Rb6 Qc5 62. Qe3 Qd5 63. Rb1 Nf4 64. Rg1 Qc6 65. g5 Ng6
66. Qd3 d5 67. Qf5 Qe6 68. Qxe6 fxe6 69. Kg2 Nf4+ 70. Kf3 Nxh3 71. Rg4 Kg6 72.
Rxh4 Nxg5+ 73. Ke3 e4 74. Kf4 Nf7 75. f3 e5+ 76. Ke3 exf3 77. Kxf3 Ng5+ 78. Ke3
Ne6 79. Rh1 Kf6 80. Rh6+ Kf5 81. Rh5+ Ng5 82. Kd3 Kg6 83. Rh1 Kf6 84. Rf1+ Ke6
85. Rf8 Ne4 86. Rc8 Kd7 87. Ra8 Nc5+ 88. Kc3 Ke6 89. Rc8 Nb7 90. Kd3 Kd6 91.
Kc3 Na5 92. Ra8 Nc6 93. Kd3 Ke7 94. Rh8 Ke6 95. Rh6+ Kd7 96. Rf6 Nd4 97. Rb6
Nc6 98. Rb7+ Ke6 99. Rc7 Nd4 100. Rb7 Kf6 101. Ra7 Nf5 102. Ra6+ Kg5 103. Ra4
Ne7 104. Ra7 Kf6 105. Rd7 Ke6 106. Rb7 Kd6 107. Rb6+ Nc6 108. Ra6 Kc5 109. Ra8
Nd4 110. Ra5+ Kd6 111. Ra6+ Ke7 112. Rg6 Nb3 113. Rc6 Kd7 114. Rf6 Nc5+ 115.
Ke3 Ne4 116. Rg6 Nd6 117. Kd3 Nb5 118. Rb6 Nd4 119. Rf6 Ne6 120. Rh6 Ke7 121.
Ke3 Nd4 122. Ra6 Ne6 123. Rb6 Nc5 124. Kf3 Nd7 125. Ra6 d4 126. Ke4 Nc5+ 127.
Kxe5 Nxa6 128. Kxd4 1/2-1/2

[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "11"]
[White "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Black "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B92"]
[PlyCount "123"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. Be2
Nbd7 9. Qd3 Rc8 10. a4 Be7 11. O-O O-O 12. a5 Qc7 13. Rfd1 h6 14. Rd2 Rfe8 15.
h3 Nf8 16. Bb6 Qb8 17. Nd5 Ng6 18. Be3 Nxd5 19. exd5 Bd7 20. c3 Bf6 21. Qe4 Bg5
22. Qb4 Nf4 23. Bf1 Nh5 24. Bxg5 hxg5 25. c4 Nf4 26. c5 Bf5 27. Rc1 Rcd8 28.
Qb6 Re7 29. c6 Rc7 30. Rc4 Nxd5 31. Rxd5 Be6 32. Rd1 Bxc4 33. Bxc4 Rxc6 34. Qb4
Qc7 35. Bd5 Rc2 36. Nd2 Rc1 37. Rxc1 Qxc1+ 38. Kh2 Rd7 39. Ne4 Qc2 40. Bxb7 d5
41. Nxg5 Qc1 42. h4 Qf4+ 43. Qxf4 exf4 44. Bxa6 Ra7 45. Bb5 Rxa5 46. Be8 f6 47.
b4 Ra6 48. Nh3 g5 49. b5 Rd6 50. hxg5 d4 51. Nxf4 d3 52. Nxd3 Rxd3 53. gxf6 Kf8
54. f7 Rd2 55. Kg3 Rd6 56. f4 Rd3+ 57. Kg4 Rd2 58. Kf3 Ke7 59. g4 Rh2 60. g5
Kf8 61. Kg4 Kg7 62. g6 1-0

[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "12"]
[White "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Black "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B33"]
[PlyCount "190"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e5 6. Ndb5 d6 7. Bg5 a6 8.
Na3 b5 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. Nd5 f5 11. Bd3 Be6 12. O-O Bxd5 13. exd5 Ne7 14. Nxb5
Bg7 15. Nc3 e4 16. Bc4 O-O 17. Qd2 Ng6 18. Bb3 Re8 19. Ba4 Re5 20. f4 Qb6+ 21.
Kh1 Re7 22. Bb3 e3 23. Qe2 Bxc3 24. bxc3 Qc5 25. c4 a5 26. a4 Rae8 27. g3 Qb4
28. Rab1 Re4 29. Rfc1 Qc3 30. Rd1 h5 31. Rd3 Qh8 32. c5 dxc5 33. d6 c4 34. Bxc4
Rxc4 35. Rxe3 Rxe3 36. Qxc4 Nf8 37. Rd1 h4 38. gxh4 Qh5 39. Qd5 Nd7 40. Rg1+
Kh7 41. Qg2 Qf3 42. h5 Qe4 43. Qxe4 Rxe4 44. Rb1 Kg7 45. Rb5 Rxa4 46. Rxf5 Rd4
47. Rxa5 Rxd6 48. Rg5+ Kh6 49. Kg2 Rc6 50. Rf5 f6 51. Kf3 Rxc2 52. Rd5 Nf8 53.
Rf5 Kg7 54. Kg3 Ne6 55. h6+ Kg6 56. Rd5 Rc3+ 57. Kg4 Rc4 58. Rf5 Rc8 59. Rd5
Rd8 60. Ra5 Rd4 61. Rf5 Rd2 62. Ra5 Nc7 63. h3 Kxh6 64. Kf5 Rd6 65. Ra2 Ne8 66.
Ke4 Ng7 67. Rb2 Re6+ 68. Kf3 Ra6 69. Kg4 Kg6 70. Rb8 f5+ 71. Kh4 Ne6 72. Kg3
Ra3+ 73. Kh4 Rf3 74. Rb6 Rxf4+ 75. Kg3 Re4 76. Kf2 Kg5 77. Rd6 Kh4 78. Kg2 f4
79. Kf3 Ng5+ 80. Kf2 Kxh3 81. Rd3+ Kg4 82. Kf1 f3 83. Rd8 Re2 84. Rg8 Kf4 85.
Rd8 Ne4 86. Rf8+ Ke3 87. Re8 Rb2 88. Kg1 Rb1+ 89. Kh2 f2 90. Rf8 f1=R 91. Rxf1
Rxf1 92. Kg2 Ke2 93. Kh3 Kf3 94. Kh2 Rb1 95. Kh3 Rh1# 0-1


[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "13"]
[White "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Black "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B92"]
[PlyCount "363"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. Be2
Be7 9. Qd3 Nc6 10. a3 Rc8 11. O-O Na5 12. Nxa5 Qxa5 13. Qd2 Qd8 14. Rfd1 h6 15.
a4 Qa5 16. Bf3 Ng4 17. Bxg4 Bxg4 18. Nd5 Qxd2 19. Rxd2 Be6 20. c3 g6 21. a5 f5
22. exf5 gxf5 23. f4 Bxd5 24. Rxd5 Kd7 25. fxe5 Ke6 26. exd6 Kxd5 27. dxe7 Rhe8
28. Rd1+ Kc6 29. Bxh6 Rxe7 30. Kf2 Re5 31. Bf4 Rd5 32. Ra1 Kb5 33. h4 Rh8 34.
g3 Rh7 35. b3 Rd3 36. Rc1 Kxa5 37. Ke2 Rdd7 38. Bg5 Kb6 39. Ke3 Kc5 40. Kf4 Rd3
41. Bf6 Rh5 42. Re1 Kc6 43. Bd4 Kd7 44. b4 Rd2 45. Ke5 Rg2 46. Rd1 Kc6 47. Kf4
Re2 48. Ra1 Kd7 49. Ra5 Re1 50. Kf3 Kc6 51. Rc5+ Kd6 52. Rc8 Rf1+ 53. Kg2 Rd1
54. Rd8+ Ke6 55. Kf3 Rh7 56. Rf8 Rf7 57. Re8+ Kd5 58. Re5+ Kc4 59. Rc5+ Kb3 60.
Kf4 Rf1+ 61. Kg5 f4 62. gxf4 R1xf4 63. Rd5 Rf3 64. Kg6 Rc7 65. h5 Rc6+ 66. Kg5
Re6 67. Rd8 Rg3+ 68. Kf4 Rh3 69. Kg5 Rh2 70. Rh8 Rg2+ 71. Kf5 Rd6 72. h6 Rdg6
73. Bf6 R6g3 74. Ke6 Re2+ 75. Kd7 Rd2+ 76. Kc7 Rf2 77. Bd4 Rf7+ 78. Kd6 Rg6+
79. Kd5 Rf5+ 80. Ke4 Rh5 81. Bg7 b6 82. Kf3 a5 83. bxa5 bxa5 84. Rb8+ Kc4 85.
Rc8+ Kd3 86. Rd8+ Kc2 87. Ra8 Rg1 88. Ra7 Rf1+ 89. Kg2 Rff5 90. Kg3 Rhg5+ 91.
Kh4 Rb5 92. Rb7 Rh5+ 93. Kg4 Rbg5+ 94. Kf4 Rd5 95. c4 Rc5 96. Ke3 Rxc4 97. Rb2+
Kc1 98. Kd3 Ra4 99. Rc2+ Kd1 100. Rd2+ Ke1 101. Rb2 Rh3+ 102. Kc2 Rc4+ 103. Kb1
a4 104. Ra2 Kf1 105. Bf8 Rf4 106. Bg7 Re4 107. Rc2 Re2 108. Rxe2 Kxe2 109. Kb2
Kd2 110. Bf8 Re3 111. Bg7 Rb3+ 112. Ka1 Kc2 113. Ka2 Rh3 114. Bf8 Kd1 115. Bg7
Ke1 116. Kb2 Ke2 117. Bf8 Kd2 118. Bg7 Ke1 119. Bf8 Rb3+ 120. Ka2 Kf2 121. Bg7
Rh3 122. Kb2 Kf1 123. Ka2 Kg2 124. Bf8 Kf2 125. Kb2 Rb3+ 126. Ka2 Kf1 127. Bg7
Rh3 128. Kb2 Rh4 129. Ka3 Ke2 130. Bf8 Kd3 131. Bg7 Ke4 132. Kxa4 Kf5+ 133. Kb5
Rh5 134. Kc5 Kg5 135. Kd5 Kg6+ 136. Kd4 Kh7 137. Ke4 Rh4+ 138. Kf5 Rh2 139. Kf4
Rf2+ 140. Ke5 Rf1 141. Ke4 Re1+ 142. Kf4 Re2 143. Kf5 Re3 144. Kf4 Ra3 145. Ke4
Rh3 146. Bf8 Rh4+ 147. Ke5 Rh1 148. Bg7 Rh3 149. Ke6 Re3+ 150. Kf5 Re2 151. Kf4
Rh2 152. Ke5 Kg6 153. Ke4 Rh1 154. Kf4 Rh4+ 155. Ke5 Ra4 156. Kd5 Kh7 157. Ke5
Ra2 158. Kf4 Ra5 159. Ke4 Rg5 160. Bf6 Rg2 161. Bg7 Rg3 162. Kf5 Rf3+ 163. Ke5
Rf2 164. Ke4 Rd2 165. Kf5 Rd3 166. Ke4 Rb3 167. Kf4 Rb5 168. Ke4 Rc5 169. Kf4
Rc2 170. Kf5 Rd2 171. Ke4 Rd1 172. Kf5 Rd5+ 173. Ke4 Ra5 174. Bf8 Ra8 175. Bg7
Kg6 176. Kf4 Re8 177. Kf3 Re6 178. Kf4 Kh7 179. Kg5 Kg8 180. Bf6 Rc6 181. Kg6
Rc7 182. Bd4 1/2-1/2

[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "14"]
[White "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Black "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B22"]
[PlyCount "110"]

1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. d4 cxd4 5. cxd4 e6 6. Nf3 d6 7. Bd2 Be7 8. Nc3
O-O 9. Bc4 dxe5 10. dxe5 Nxc3 11. Bxc3 Qc7 12. Qe2 b6 13. Nd4 Nd7 14. f4 Bb7
15. O-O Rac8 16. b3 a6 17. a4 Nc5 18. Bb2 g6 19. Rfc1 a5 20. Nb5 Qb8 21. Rd1
Rcd8 22. Nd4 Rd7 23. Rac1 Rfd8 24. Qc2 Na6 25. Qe2 Nb4 26. Bb5 Rd5 27. Bc4 Rxd4
28. Bxd4 Rxd4 29. Rxd4 Bc5 30. Kh1 Bxd4 31. h3 Bc5 32. Kh2 Nd5 33. Bxd5 Bxd5
34. Kg3 Qc7 35. Qb2 Qe7 36. Rd1 g5 37. f5 f6 38. Kh2 fxe5 39. fxe6 Bd4 40. Qc2
Qxe6 41. Qd2 Qf5 42. Qe2 Bxb3 43. Rf1 Qe6 44. Qh5 h6 45. h4 Bxa4 46. hxg5 Be8
47. Qh4 hxg5 48. Qxg5+ Qg6 49. Qh4 Qh5 50. Qxh5 Bxh5 51. Rf5 Be8 52. Rf1 a4 53.
Rc1 b5 54. Rc8 Kf7 55. Kg3 b4 0-1

[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "15"]
[White "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Black "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A29"]
[PlyCount "210"]

1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. g3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Bg2 Nb6 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. d3 Be7 8.
O-O O-O 9. Be3 Be6 10. Rc1 f5 11. a3 a5 12. Na4 f4 13. Bc5 Nxa4 14. Qxa4 Bd6
15. Nd2 Rb8 16. Ne4 Kh8 17. Rfe1 Qd7 18. Bf3 Rbd8 19. Qb5 Nd4 20. Qxd7 Nxf3+
21. exf3 Rxd7 22. g4 Bb3 23. Kg2 h5 24. d4 exd4 25. Nxd6 cxd6 26. Bxd4 a4 27.
g5 Kh7 28. h4 Rfd8 29. Bb6 Rf8 30. Re4 d5 31. Rb4 Rdf7 32. Re1 Kg6 33. Bd4 Rc8
34. Re6+ Kf5 35. Re5+ Kg6 36. Bc3 Rc6 37. Re8 Rc4 38. Rb6+ Rc6 39. Rxc6+ bxc6
40. Re6+ Kf5 41. Rxc6 Rd7 42. Rc5 Re7 43. Rc8 Kg6 44. Bd4 Rf7 45. Rc6+ Kf5 46.
Rc5 Rd7 47. Rc8 Kg6 48. Rg8 Re7 49. Rd8 Rf7 50. Re8 Kf5 51. Re5+ Kg6 52. Re6+
Kf5 53. Rd6 Rc7 54. Kf1 Re7 55. Rb6 Bc4+ 56. Kg2 Bb3 57. Rb8 Kg6 58. Rf8 Rf7
59. Ra8 Re7 60. Bc3 Rf7 61. Rh8 Rd7 62. Bd4 Re7 63. Rb8 Rf7 64. Rd8 Bc4 65. Rg8
Bb3 66. Be5 Bc4 67. Rd8 Kf5 68. Bc3 Bb3 69. Re8 Bc4 70. Rg8 Kg6 71. Be5 Bb3 72.
Rd8 Kf5 73. Bc3 Bc4 74. Ra8 Bb3 75. Ra5 Rd7 76. Bd4 Re7 77. Kh3 Rc7 78. Ra6 Bc2
79. Ra8 Kg6 80. Ra5 Bb3 81. Ra6+ Kf5 82. Kg2 Re7 83. Rb6 Rf7 84. Rb4 Re7 85.
Rb5 Rf7 86. Bc3 Rd7 87. Rb4 Ra7 88. Bd2 Bc4 89. Rb8 Rf7 90. g6 Rd7 91. Rb4 Ra7
92. Kh2 Ra6 93. Rb7 Rxg6 94. Bc3 d4 95. Bxd4 Bd5 96. Rxg7 Rxg7 97. Bxg7 Bxf3
98. Bh6 Kg4 99. Bg5 Bd5 100. Kg1 Bc4 101. Kg2 Be2 102. Bd8 f3+ 103. Kg1 Kf4
104. Bf6 Bd3 105. Bg5+ Kg4 1/2-1/2


[Event "Robert-PC, Blitz 25m"]
[Site "Robert-PC"]
[Date "2012.02.18"]
[Round "16"]
[White "Komodo64 SSE Version 4"]
[Black "Vitruvius_1.0H_x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B33"]
[PlyCount "139"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e5 6. Ndb5 d6 7. Bg5 a6 8.
Na3 b5 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. Nd5 f5 11. c3 Bg7 12. Bd3 Be6 13. Qh5 O-O 14. O-O f4
15. Rad1 Rb8 16. Nc2 Qd7 17. Qe2 Bxd5 18. exd5 Ne7 19. Rfe1 f5 20. Nd4 e4 21.
Bc2 Bxd4 22. Rxd4 Ng6 23. f3 e3 24. a4 a5 25. axb5 Qxb5 26. Qxb5 Rxb5 27. b4
axb4 28. cxb4 Kg7 29. g3 Rb7 30. Kf1 Kf6 31. gxf4 Re7 32. b5 Ra8 33. Bb3 Ra3
34. Bd1 Ra2 35. Re2 Ra1 36. b6 Rb1 37. Rc2 Rxb6 38. Ke2 Nh4 39. Rc6 Rb2+ 40.
Bc2 Kf7 41. Ra4 Rb8 42. Ra3 Ng2 43. Ra4 Rb2 44. Rd4 Ra7 45. Rdc4 Ra3 46. h4 h5
47. Rd4 Nxh4 48. Rc7+ Kg6 49. Rc6 Kg7 50. Rdc4 Ng2 51. Kf1 Rxc2 52. Rxc2 Nxf4
53. Rc1 Ra2 54. Rb1 e2+ 55. Kf2 Nd3+ 56. Ke3 e1=Q+ 57. Rxe1 Nxe1 58. Rxd6 Ng2+
59. Kd4 h4 60. Rc6 h3 61. d6 h2 62. Rc1 Kf6 63. Rh1 Nf4 64. d7 Ne6+ 65. Kc4 Ke7
66. Kd5 Re2 67. Kc4 Kxd7 68. Kd3 Nf4+ 69. Kc4 Ke7 70. Kd4 0-1

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello dear Robert,

Indeed very good performance by Vitruvius

I have just started testing Vitruvius 1.0C HEM x64 6c under SCCT Auto232 conditions

And the current results are:
Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 6c - Vitruvius 1.0C HEM x64 6c : 12 Games, +3 =8 - 1 (in favor for Fire)

Lest see...what will be the Elo performance after many games

Best,
Sedat

[Robert Flesher]

Hello dear Robert,

Indeed very good performance by Vitruvius

I have just started testing Vitruvius 1.0C HEM x64 6c under SCCT Auto232 conditions

And the current results are:
Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 6c - Vitruvius 1.0C HEM x64 6c : 12 Games, +3 =8 - 1 (in favor for Fire)

Lest see...what will be the Elo performance after many games

Best,
Sedat

Hello Sedat,

What time control are you testing at?

Do you manually play over the games after to see the chess being played?

I suspect that for engine for engine results the conservative engine may be stronger, however, I have not tested it yet. But, I am more interested in the chess being played and good results are just an added bonus.

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello again Robert,

SCCT Auto232's time control is Blitz: 4min+2sec

But note that the current hardwares,which i use for Top MP engines:
i7 980X @4.33GHz 6 cores
i7 970 @4.33 GHz 6 cores

And if we compare with my previous old dated processors,the current conditions (6 cores, ponder on...) equals to slower time control

So still i am not sure,how can we call this rating: blitz or slow ?!

Btw,the current results are equal (15 Games, + 3= 9 - 3)

For SCCT Auto232 Rating-All Versions:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/ratings/scct-auto232/

For SCCT Auto232 Rating-Top 20:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-auto232-top-20/

For Conditions:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/rating ... onditions/

Best,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

Do you manually play over the games after to see the chess being played?

Yes...Auto-232 matches between two PCs

[MM]

The name sounds like a virus

Where is the beta version?

There was a current version out for over a year- Vitruvius 0.83b. But it looks like he removed that download. You haven't missed a thing- but I will be more than happy to send it to you.


george

Sure, I will appreciate that

Thanks

You will have to mail me here at geotsp8@yahoo.com and give me an address to send it to. Understand it is not even on the same planet with DeepSaros. But you can run it yourself and decide.


gts

Just made a match 1' IvanHoe 46b - Vitruvius HEM x64.
IvanHoe ruled. Vitruvius sacrifices material without compensation in most cases. I know Vitruvius its not a blitz or bullet specialist but this result is no exciting.

Regards

Do you really expect to see it's best/exciting play in 1 min games? Test Komodo the same way and you will get the same result. Can you say Komodo is weak or not exciting? I have it playing Vitruvius @ 25 min games and it is killing Komodo! Vitruvius understands the power of passed pawns better than other engines, and wins many game do to that fact. Those material sacs you speak of are proving to be nothing short of brilliant.

It's the same old story on this forum. Some tester plays a series of 1 min games, sees the results, and says, "it's weak". So I will make to own claim, weak human players making silly judgements! I know that does not seem fair right? But if the shoe fits.......

Yawning regards

Flesher, i just said that in my match at bullet against IvanHoe, Vitruvius lost bad.
I never said it is weak. I will say it is weak when (if) i will have hundred games against different engines and the results will be bad.

If you have different results at different time control, you should better post the results, more than some games that you selected.

Anyway, some time ago, Carotino (the author of Vitruvius) alias Munter, published a list of engines in which there was Vitruvius. It is a pity that Munter speaks, as source, as ''an enthusiast tester of engines'' (who?).


http://vitruviuschess.blogspot.com/sear ... -results=1

The games are not enough. If you consider that many engines in the list played with 2 cores or 1 single core, this performance of Vitruvius doesn't impress me too much (-102 elo from Houdini 2.0).

P.S.

I wonder who made this list, Komodo 4 is -138 points from Houdini 2.0 single core...it is a nonsense.

[Robert Flesher]

Hello again Robert,

SCCT Auto232's time control is Blitz: 4min+2sec

But note that the current hardwares,which i use for Top MP engines:
i7 980X @4.33GHz 6 cores
i7 970 @4.33 GHz 6 cores

And if we compare with my previous old dated processors,the current conditions (6 cores, ponder on...) equals to slower time control

So still i am not sure,how can we call this rating: blitz or slow ?!

Btw,the current results are equal (15 Games, + 3= 9 - 3)

For SCCT Auto232 Rating-All Versions:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/ratings/scct-auto232/

For SCCT Auto232 Rating-Top 20:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-auto232-top-20/

For Conditions:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/rating ... onditions/

Best,
Sedat

Heya Sedat, regardless of processor speed (I also have the I7) I prefer the longer time controls 10min or more. When you analyze an unclear positions with an engine most people with allow it to ponder for 2-3 min or more. This is why I prefer the longer time controls. Even though the engines are super strong, and hardware is very fast, quality suffers. The quality of the games are directly and inversely propotional to the amount of time given.
Engine Blitz is interesting to some people, but I prefer engines playing the longer games. I will watch your results and see how they pan out, but I'd prefer to download and play over the games. keep me posted.

[Sedat Canbaz]

I wonder who made this list, Komodo 4 is -138 points from Houdini 2.0 single core...it is a nonsense.

Indeed strange results...but if you check more carefully you will notice that there are only 250 games per player

In other words,we need more games for a better conclusion

Btw,for example under SCCT conditions,the elo difference is approx.70 Elo (no patience to see the performance of Komodo 4 MP)

Code: Select all

  21 Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 1c      3253   13   13  1952   62%  3176   41%
  37 Komodo 3.0 x64 1c            3181   12   12  2366   49%  3169   40% 

Regards,
Sedat