Terje wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:53 pm
Making claims about which engine is best based on 60 games each
Please think about that:
Statistics are no substitute for personal judgment. (Folk wisdom)
When I think of "statistics", I think of the hunter who shot the first time just to the left of a rabbit, and the second time just to the right. On the statistical average, there would be one dead rabbit. (F. Steinkühler)
Statistics are like bikinis: They reveal a lot, but hide the most important things. (Folk wisdom)
I'm not interested in trying to explain this again, so I'll just leave it at "I hope you're trolling"
Terje wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:53 pm
Making claims about which engine is best based on 60 games each
Please think about that:
Statistics are no substitute for personal judgment. (Folk wisdom)
When I think of "statistics", I think of the hunter who shot the first time just to the left of a rabbit, and the second time just to the right. On the statistical average, there would be one dead rabbit. (F. Steinkühler)
Statistics are like bikinis: They reveal a lot, but hide the most important things. (Folk wisdom)
I'm not interested in trying to explain this again, so I'll just leave it at "I hope you're trolling"
I dream that one day people will stop paying attention to low-effort knockoffs
Eman is a strong engine (based on Stockfish) but since the engine author has made it extremely difficult to test his "creation" without running over to the Infinitychess forum and begging for a test copy......The point is MOOT...make the said engine (Eman).. available for analysis then make the claims..don't pull all the access to copies then use Shills To claim your engine is the "Worlds Best" ..Show Me States Say "Prove It".....
Terje wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:53 pm
Making claims about which engine is best based on 60 games each
Please think about that:
Statistics are no substitute for personal judgment. (Folk wisdom)
When I think of "statistics", I think of the hunter who shot the first time just to the left of a rabbit, and the second time just to the right. On the statistical average, there would be one dead rabbit. (F. Steinkühler)
Statistics are like bikinis: They reveal a lot, but hide the most important things. (Folk wisdom)
"By a small sample,
we may judge
of the whole piece."
Miguel de Cervantes,
from his novel “Don Quixote”
Of course we all know now that Don Quixote was a complete nutjob...
supersharp77 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:42 pm
Eman is a strong engine (based on Stockfish) but since the engine author has made it extremely difficult to test his "creation" without running over to the Infinitychess forum and begging for a test copy.
Can't confirm that. I wrote a mail to the programmer Khalid Omar, and he sent me the engine for free - period. What's the problem?
supersharp77 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:42 pm
Eman is a strong engine (based on Stockfish) but since the engine author has made it extremely difficult to test his "creation" without running over to the Infinitychess forum and begging for a test copy.
Can't confirm that. I wrote a mail to the programmer Khalid Omar, and he sent me the engine for free - period. What's the problem?
.
Great. He's also obligated to supply you with the source code that created the engine. Please request that.
supersharp77 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:42 pm
Eman is a strong engine (based on Stockfish) but since the engine author has made it extremely difficult to test his "creation" without running over to the Infinitychess forum and begging for a test copy.
Can't confirm that. I wrote a mail to the programmer Khalid Omar, and he sent me the engine for free - period. What's the problem?
.
The problem is that he is breaking the law. It is a GPL version 3 project, based on Stockfish. Did you receive the source code or instructions on how to download it?
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.
Terje wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:53 pm
Making claims about which engine is best based on 60 games each
Please think about that:
Statistics are no substitute for personal judgment. (Folk wisdom)
When I think of "statistics", I think of the hunter who shot the first time just to the left of a rabbit, and the second time just to the right. On the statistical average, there would be one dead rabbit. (F. Steinkühler)
Statistics are like bikinis: They reveal a lot, but hide the most important things. (Folk wisdom)
I'm not interested in trying to explain this again, so I'll just leave it at "I hope you're trolling"
I dream that one day people will stop paying attention to low-effort knockoffs
There is always hope. We have not heard from Mr. Dull Propeller in a while.
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.
supersharp77 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:42 pm
Eman is a strong engine (based on Stockfish) but since the engine author has made it extremely difficult to test his "creation" without running over to the Infinitychess forum and begging for a test copy.
Can't confirm that. I wrote a mail to the programmer Khalid Omar, and he sent me the engine for free - period. What's the problem?
Great. He's also obligated to supply you with the source code that created the engine. Please request that.
I can't imagine that the author of Eman is a criminal.
Besides that:
It would be interesting to publish here a big list with comparative tests.
How similar they are:
Eman---------> Stockfish
Komodo -----> Stockfish
Houdini -----> Stockfish
Ethereal -----> Stockfish
Xiphos -------> Stockfish
RofChade----> Stockfish
Booot---------> Stockfish
etc.
The results could be very surprising...
In any case, we would then know more really which engines actually "quoted" Stockfish particularly strongly...
