Beautiful game, highlights strengths of NN+MCTS

Discussion of anything and everything relating to chess playing software and machines.

Moderators: hgm, Harvey Williamson, bob

Forum rules
This textbox is used to restore diagrams posted with the [d] tag before the upgrade.
User avatar
MikeGL
Posts: 785
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:49 pm

Re: Beautiful game, highlights strengths of NN+MCTS

Post by MikeGL » Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:53 pm

Old version, but this SF8 is also very strong.
An insane imbalance between Lc0 vs. SF8 where Lc0 is a rook down in exchange for mobility and passed pawns.
Really fun game to watch. Haven't seen any similar games where SF8 was beaten while having a material advantage but K tied down at the back rank..

Imbalance: (R vs. activity+central passers )




[Event "Lc0server11261Stockfish8Nunn_5mas3HT6CPU1024"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Lc01711261"]
[Black "Stockfish_8_x64_bmi2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "106"]
[WhiteType "engine"]
[BlackType "engine"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 e6 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Nc3 Nf6 6. Bg5 Be7 7. Qc2 Nbd7
8. e3 O-O 9. Bd3 Re8 10. O-O Nf8 11. h3 Ne4 12. Bf4 f5 13. Bh2 Be6 14. Ne5
Bd6 15. f3 Nxc3 16. bxc3 Nd7 17. Bxf5 Bxf5 18. Qxf5 Bxe5 19. dxe5 g6 20.
Qb1 Qb6 21. f4 Qxb1 22. Raxb1 b5 23. g4 a5 24. Kg2 Nc5 25. f5 Kg7 26. h4
gxf5 27. gxf5 Nd3 28. e6 Kf6 29. Bd6 Ne5 30. Kh3 Nc4 31. Bc5 Nd2 32. Bd4+
Ke7 33. Kg4 Rg8+ 34. Kf4 h5 35. Rg1 Nxb1 36. Bc5+ Kf6 37. Rg5 Nd2 38. Rxh5
Ne4 39. Bd4+ Ke7 40. Rh7+ Kd8 41. f6 Nxf6 42. Bxf6+ Kc8 43. h5 Re8 44. Kf5
c5 45. h6 b4 46. Rg7 bxc3 47. Bxc3 d4 48. exd4 cxd4 49. Bxd4 Rxe6 50. Kxe6
Ra6+ 51. Kd5 Rxh6 52. Bc5 Ra6 53. a4 Kd8 {[+ -]}

Game credit to Javier Ros for this game.
I told my wife that a husband is like a fine wine; he gets better with age. The next day, she locked me in the cellar.

User avatar
MikeGL
Posts: 785
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:49 pm

Re: Beautiful game, highlights strengths of NN+MCTS

Post by MikeGL » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:29 pm

Not very difficult position for SF Dev version but on your rig, how many
minutes would it take to find best move 33.Kg4! with a winning score for white?

Position after blacks Kf6-Ke7 move from Lc0-SF8 game below.
[d]r3r3/4k2p/2p1P3/pp1p1P2/3B3P/2P1P2K/P2n4/1R3R2 w - - 9 33
bm Kg4

MikeGL wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:53 pm
Old version, but this SF8 is also very strong.
An insane imbalance between Lc0 vs. SF8 where Lc0 is a rook down in exchange for mobility and passed pawns.
Really fun game to watch. Haven't seen any similar games where SF8 was beaten while having a material advantage but K tied down at the back rank..

Imbalance: (R vs. activity+central passers )




[Event "Lc0server11261Stockfish8Nunn_5mas3HT6CPU1024"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Lc01711261"]
[Black "Stockfish_8_x64_bmi2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "106"]
[WhiteType "engine"]
[BlackType "engine"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 e6 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Nc3 Nf6 6. Bg5 Be7 7. Qc2 Nbd7
8. e3 O-O 9. Bd3 Re8 10. O-O Nf8 11. h3 Ne4 12. Bf4 f5 13. Bh2 Be6 14. Ne5
Bd6 15. f3 Nxc3 16. bxc3 Nd7 17. Bxf5 Bxf5 18. Qxf5 Bxe5 19. dxe5 g6 20.
Qb1 Qb6 21. f4 Qxb1 22. Raxb1 b5 23. g4 a5 24. Kg2 Nc5 25. f5 Kg7 26. h4
gxf5 27. gxf5 Nd3 28. e6 Kf6 29. Bd6 Ne5 30. Kh3 Nc4 31. Bc5 Nd2 32. Bd4+
Ke7 33. Kg4 Rg8+ 34. Kf4 h5 35. Rg1 Nxb1 36. Bc5+ Kf6 37. Rg5 Nd2 38. Rxh5
Ne4 39. Bd4+ Ke7 40. Rh7+ Kd8 41. f6 Nxf6 42. Bxf6+ Kc8 43. h5 Re8 44. Kf5
c5 45. h6 b4 46. Rg7 bxc3 47. Bxc3 d4 48. exd4 cxd4 49. Bxd4 Rxe6 50. Kxe6
Ra6+ 51. Kd5 Rxh6 52. Bc5 Ra6 53. a4 Kd8 {[+ -]}

Game credit to Javier Ros for this game.
I told my wife that a husband is like a fine wine; he gets better with age. The next day, she locked me in the cellar.

User avatar
MikeGL
Posts: 785
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:49 pm

Re: Beautiful game, highlights strengths of NN+MCTS

Post by MikeGL » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:49 am

Strong positional move. (Taken from Lc0-SF9 game below)

[d]1r4r1/3b1p1k/1q2pP1p/3pP1p1/n1pP2P1/4RN2/2PQ2BP/5RK1 w - - 3 33

After 32...Qd8-Qb6 of SF9 x64 bmi, Lc0 played a strong positional move which is not considered as best by SF9.
Here, Lc0 played 33.Kf2! activating its K and primarily to make way for the Rh1 move creating an
open h-file of its own (because SF9 already invaded the one and only open b-file).
This Kf2! is an amazing positional move because the position went downhill after this h4 break of Lc0 supported by Rh1 first.
Good win by Lc0.

Not sure if there are AB engines considering this 33.Kf2! move also.




[Event "Lc0server11261Stockfish9Nunn_5mas3HT6CPU1024syzygy"]
[Site "J-PC"]
[Date "2018.09.13"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Lc01711261syzygy"]
[Black "Stockfish_9_x64_syzygy"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "C19"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "18:49:13"]
[Variation "Winawer, 6...Ne7 7.Nf3 Qc7 8.a4 b6"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "300+3"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "136"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 c5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Qc7 7. Nf3 Ne7 8.
a4 b6 9. Bb5+ Bd7 10. Bd3 Nbc6 11. O-O h6 12. Re1 O-O 13. Ba3 Na5 14. Nh4
Bxa4 15. Re3 c4 16. Be2 Be8 17. f4 Nac6 18. Bg4 Bd7 19. Bh3 Qd8 20. Qd2 b5
21. Bc5 Kh7 22. g4 Rg8 23. Rf1 a5 24. f5 Nc8 25. f6 g5 26. Nf3 Nb6 27. Bd6
b4 28. Bg2 Na4 29. cxb4 axb4 30. Bxb4 Nxb4 31. Qxb4 Rb8 32. Qd2 Qb6 33. Kf2
Qb4 34. Qxb4 Rxb4 35. Rh1 Rb2 36. Ne1 Ra2 37. h4 gxh4 38. Bf3 Rg6 39. Rxh4
Kg8 40. Be2 Nb2 41. Ng2 Kf8 42. Nf4 Rg8 43. Rh1 Be8 44. Rc1 Ra4 45. Rh3 c3
46. Ke3 Nc4+ 47. Bxc4 Rxc4 48. Rb1 Rc8 49. Kf3 Ba4 50. Rh2 h5 51. Nxh5 Rh8
52. Rb7 Ra8 53. Rc7 Kg8 54. Rxc3 Rh6 55. Kf4 Be8 56. Rch3 Bb5 57. Kg5 Rh8
58. Nf4 Rxh3 59. Rxh3 Bc4 60. Kh6 Ra1 61. Re3 Rh1+ 62. Nh5 Ra1 63. Rc3 Kf8
64. Nf4 Ke8 65. g5 Rf1 66. Nh3 Be2 67. g6 fxg6 68. Ng5 Bg4 1-0

Game Creit: Javier Ros
I told my wife that a husband is like a fine wine; he gets better with age. The next day, she locked me in the cellar.

MikeB
Posts: 2720
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:34 am
Location: Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania

Re: Beautiful game, highlights strengths of NN+MCTS

Post by MikeB » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:46 pm

MikeGL wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:49 am
Strong positional move. (Taken from Lc0-SF9 game below)

[d]1r4r1/3b1p1k/1q2pP1p/3pP1p1/n1pP2P1/4RN2/2PQ2BP/5RK1 w - - 3 33

After 32...Qd8-Qb6 of SF9 x64 bmi, Lc0 played a strong positional move which is not considered as best by SF9.
Here, Lc0 played 33.Kf2! activating its K and primarily to make way for the Rh1 move creating an
open h-file of its own (because SF9 already invaded the one and only open b-file).
This Kf2! is an amazing positional move because the position went downhill after this h4 break of Lc0 supported by Rh1 first.
Good win by Lc0.

Not sure if there are AB engines considering this 33.Kf2! move also.




[Event "Lc0server11261Stockfish9Nunn_5mas3HT6CPU1024syzygy"]
[Site "J-PC"]
[Date "2018.09.13"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Lc01711261syzygy"]
[Black "Stockfish_9_x64_syzygy"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "C19"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "18:49:13"]
[Variation "Winawer, 6...Ne7 7.Nf3 Qc7 8.a4 b6"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "300+3"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "136"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 c5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Qc7 7. Nf3 Ne7 8.
a4 b6 9. Bb5+ Bd7 10. Bd3 Nbc6 11. O-O h6 12. Re1 O-O 13. Ba3 Na5 14. Nh4
Bxa4 15. Re3 c4 16. Be2 Be8 17. f4 Nac6 18. Bg4 Bd7 19. Bh3 Qd8 20. Qd2 b5
21. Bc5 Kh7 22. g4 Rg8 23. Rf1 a5 24. f5 Nc8 25. f6 g5 26. Nf3 Nb6 27. Bd6
b4 28. Bg2 Na4 29. cxb4 axb4 30. Bxb4 Nxb4 31. Qxb4 Rb8 32. Qd2 Qb6 33. Kf2
Qb4 34. Qxb4 Rxb4 35. Rh1 Rb2 36. Ne1 Ra2 37. h4 gxh4 38. Bf3 Rg6 39. Rxh4
Kg8 40. Be2 Nb2 41. Ng2 Kf8 42. Nf4 Rg8 43. Rh1 Be8 44. Rc1 Ra4 45. Rh3 c3
46. Ke3 Nc4+ 47. Bxc4 Rxc4 48. Rb1 Rc8 49. Kf3 Ba4 50. Rh2 h5 51. Nxh5 Rh8
52. Rb7 Ra8 53. Rc7 Kg8 54. Rxc3 Rh6 55. Kf4 Be8 56. Rch3 Bb5 57. Kg5 Rh8
58. Nf4 Rxh3 59. Rxh3 Bc4 60. Kh6 Ra1 61. Re3 Rh1+ 62. Nh5 Ra1 63. Rc3 Kf8
64. Nf4 Ke8 65. g5 Rf1 66. Nh3 Be2 67. g6 fxg6 68. Ng5 Bg4 1-0

Game Creit: Javier Ros
latest dev-McCain ( current dev-SF also sees it on my machine)

Code: Select all

dep	score	nodes	time	(not shown:  tbhits	knps	seldep)
dep	score	nodes	time	(not shown:  tbhits	knps	seldep)
 36	+1.89!	3.04G	2:10.92	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Nc2 Ra4 Rc3+ Bf3 Ra3 Rxa3 Nxa3 Be2 Nc2 Nf3 Be4 Bd1 Ne3 Ba4 Bg6 Bb5 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Kf4 Ng2+! 
 35	+1.79 	2.52G	1:48.08	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Rb8 Nf3 Be4 Ne1 Nc2 Nxc2 Bxc2 Ra2 Bg6 Rd2 Rb3+ Kf4 Rb1 Bf3 Kh7 g5 Rb4 Bg4 Kg8 Bd1 Kf8 Ke3 Rb1 
 35	+1.78!	2.41G	1:43.47	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Rb8 Nf3 Be4 Ne1 Nc2 Nxc2 Bxc2 Ra2 Bg6 Rd2 Rb4 Bf3 Rb3 Kf4 Rc3! 
 34	+1.68 	2.13G	1:31.28	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Rb8 Ra3 Nc6 Nf3 Be4 Rc3 Bxf3 Rxc6 Bxg2 Kxg2 Kh7 Kf3 Kg6 
 33	+1.73 	2.00G	1:25.66	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Rb8 Nf3 Be4 Ne1 Nc6 Bxe4 dxe4 Ra4 Nb4 Ng2 Nd5 Ra3 Rb1 Ne3 Nxe3 Rxe3 Rb4 Kf4 Rxd4 Rxe4 
 33	+1.71!	1.98G	1:24.36	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 Rc3! 
 32	+1.61 	1.91G	1:21.44	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Rb8 Nf3 Be4 Ne1 Nc6 Bxe4 dxe4 Ra4 Nb4 Ng2 Nd5 Ra3 Kh7 Nf4 Kh6 Nxd5 exd5 Kf4 Kg6 g5 Rb2 Rh3 Rf 
 32	+1.80!	1.12G	0:47.09	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ne1 Kg8 Reh3 Ba4 Bf3 Rb2 Kg3 Ra2 Rxh6 Rxh6 Rxh6 Nd7 g5 Nf8 Rh2 Ra1 Kf2 Rc1 Ke2 c3 Rh1 Bxc2! 
 31	+1.71 	936.7M	0:39.44	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ne1 Kg8 Reh3 Ba4 Bf3 Rb2 Kg3 Rb1 Rh1 Kf8 Rxh6 Rxh6 Rxh6 Kg8 Kf2 Rc1 g5 Bxc2 Nxc2 Rxc2+ Kg3 Rd2 g6 fxg6 Bg4 Rd3+ Kf2 Kf7 Rh7+ Kf8 Bxe6 
 31	+1.59!	826.5M	0:34.78	Kf2 c3 Qc1 Qb2 Rh1 Rb4 Bf1 Qxc1 Bd3+ Kh8 Rxc1 Rc8 Ree1 Nb2 Be2 Nc4 h4 Nd2! 
 31	+1.63!	759.0M	0:31.91	Kf2 c3 Qc1 Qb2 Rh1 Qxc1 Rxc1 Bb5 Kg3 h5 gxh5 g4 Ng1 Bd7 Ne2 Rb4 Ra1 Kh6 Ra3 Rgb8 Kh4 Bb5 Nxc3 Nxc3! 
 30	+1.54 	739.9M	0:31.12	Kf2 c3 Qc1 Qb2 Rh1 Qxc1 Rxc1 Rb4 Bf1 h5 h4 hxg4 Nxg5+ Rxg5 hxg5 Kg6 Rd1 Nb2 Ra1 Na4 Kg3 Kxg5 Rd1 Nb2 Rb1 Rxd4 Rxc3 Nc4 Bxc4 dxc4 Rb4 Re4 Rb7 Be8 
 30	+1.61!	651.6M	0:27.42	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ke2 Kg8 Ra3 Kf8 Ra7 c3! 
 29	+1.52 	528.7M	0:22.14	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ne1 Ba4 Bf3 c3 Be2 Rxd4 Bd3 Nc4 Reh3 Rxd3 Nxd3 Bxc2 Nf4 Nxe5 Nxg6 Kxg6 Rxc3 Bd1 Kg3 d4 Rc7 d3 Kf4 Nxg4 Rxg4+ Bxg4 Kxg4 Kxf6 
 29	+1.37?	508.4M	0:21.27	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rb2 Ne1 Ba4 Bf3 Rg6 Kg3 Rb1 Rh2 Rc1 Ree2 Bb5 Rh1 Na4 Reh2 Nc3 g5 Be8 Kf4 Kg8 gxh6 Kh7 Ke3? 
 29	+1.47?	452.6M	0:18.93	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ne1 Ba4 Ke2 Bb5 Reh3 c3+ Ke3 Rb1 Kf2 Rd1 Rxc3 Rxd4 Nf3 Rc4 Rxc4 Nxc4 Nd4? 
 28	+1.56 	418.4M	0:17.50	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ne1 Ba4 Bf3 Rb2 Kg3 Rb1 Rh2 Rg5 Ree2 Na8 Rh4 Rg6 Ng2 Rg1 Kf2 Rc1 Nf4 Rg8 Nxd5 exd5 Bxd5 Kg6 Be4+ Kg5 Rh5+ Kxg4 Rxh6 
 28	+1.16!	207.3M	0:08.66	Kf2 Qb4 Rc1 Bc6 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Rb2 Ne1 Ra2 h4 Rb8! 
 27	+1.06 	171.6M	0:07.16	Kf2 Qb4 Rc1 Bc6 Kg3 Qxd2 Nxd2 Rb4 Ra3 Rgb8 Bf3 c3 Nb3 Kg8 Rca1 Nb2 Be2 Ra4 Kf3 Kf8 Ke3 Rba8 Rxa4 Rxa4 Bd3 Rxa1 Nxa1 Na4 
 27	+0.93?	135.7M	0:05.65	Ra1 Qb4 Qe1 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Bc6 Rea3 Ra8 Kf2 Nc3 Ke3 Nb5 Rxa8 Rxa8 Rxa8 Bxa8 Nf3 Nc3 Nd2 Nd1+ Ke2 Nc3+ Ke1 Nb5 Nf3 Bc6 Kd2 Kg8 Kd1? 
 27	+1.03?	134.1M	0:05.58	Ra1 Qb4 Rae1? 
 26	+1.12 	122.0M	0:05.08	Ra1 Qb4 Qe1 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Ra8 Rea3 Bc6 Kf2 Nc3 Ke3 Nb5 Ra6 Rgb8 Nf3 Nc3 Rxa8 Rxa8 Rxa8 Bxa8 Ng1 Nb1 Ke2 Kg6 Kd1 Nc3+ Ke1 Nb5 Ne2 Bb7 Kf2 
 26	+1.07!	103.3M	0:04.28	Kf2 Qb4 Rc1 Qxd2+ Nxd2 Rb2 Ra3 Rgb8 Bf3! 
 25	+0.98 	72.3M  	0:02.96	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Ra3 Rgb8 Nd2 Kg8 Bf3 Bc6 Be2 Rb2 Rc1 Nb6 Ke3 Ra8 Rxa8+ Nxa8 Nb1 Ra2 Nc3 Ra3 Kd2 Nb6 Re1 Na4 Nxa4 Bxa4 Rb1 
 24	+0.76 	16.2M  	0:00.64	Ra3 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rfa1 Rgb8 Ne1 Rb1 Kf2 R8b4 Bf3 R1b2 Be2 Kg8 Bd1 Rb1 Bf3 R1b2 Be2 Bc6 c3 Rb8 
 23	+0.57 	15.7M  	0:00.62	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rgb8 Ne1 Rb1 Bf3 R8b2 Kf2 Rxa1 Rxa1 Bc6 Ke3 Kg8 Be2 Kf8 Ra3 Kg8 Kf3 Bd7 Kg2 Rb1 Kf2 Rb2 Ra1 Bc6 
 22	+0.64 	6.14M  	0:00.24	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rgb8 Ne1 Rb1 Bf3 R8b4 Kf2 R1b2 R3a2 Bc6 Rxb2 Rxb2 Ke3 Kg8 Be2 Rb8 Kf2 Rb4 Ra3 Rb2 Bf3 Kh7 Kg3 
 21	+0.64 	4.94M  	0:00.20	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rgb8 Ne1 Rb1 Kf2 R8b4 Bf3 R1b2 R3a2 Bc6 Rxb2 Rxb2 Bg2 Bd7 Bh1 Bc6 Bf3 Kg6 Ra3 Bd7 
 20	+0.72 	3.93M  	0:00.16	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rgb8 Ne1 Rb1 Kf2 Rxa1 Rxa1 Rb2 Bf3 Bc6 Ke3 Kg8 Kd2 Bd7 Be2 Kf8 Nf3 Bc6 h4 gxh4 
 19	+0.70 	3.46M  	0:00.14	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Qb2 Rea3 Nc3 Qe1 Nb5 R3a2 Qc3 Kf2 Rgd8 Qxc3 Nxc3 Ra3 Nb5 Ra6 Nc7 R6a2 Nb5 Ke1 Nc3 Ra3 Nb5 Ra6 Nc3 Kd2 Ne4+ Ke3 Rb2 
 18	+0.70 	2.66M  	0:00.11	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Qb2 Rea3 Nc3 Qe1 Nb5 R3a2 Qc3 Qxc3 Nxc3 Ra3 Ne2+ Kf2 Nf4 R1a2 Rb1 Ra6 Rc1 Ra7 
 17	+0.73 	1.89M  	0:00.08	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rgb8 Kf2 Rb2 Ne1 R8b4 R3a2 Kg6 Rxb2 Rxb2 Bf3 Bc6 Ra3 Rb4 Be2 
 16	+0.80 	1.32M  	0:00.06	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Nc3 Qe1 Na4 Rea3 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Rb4 Kf2 Ra8 Bf1 Kg8 Be2 Bc6 Bf3 Bd7 R1a2 Bc6 
 15	+0.85 	1.09M  	0:00.04	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Nc3 Qe1 Na4 Rea3 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Rb4 Kf2 Ra8 Nf3 Rb2 R3a2 Rab8 Rxb2 Rxb2 Ne1 Kg6 Bf3 
 14	+0.90 	892653	0:00.04	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Nc3 Qe1 Na4 Rea3 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Rb4 Bf1 Ra8 Kf2 Rb2 Be2 Ra6 R1a2 Rxa2 Rxa2 
 13	+0.80 	623161	0:00.03	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Nc3 Qe1 Na4 Rea3 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Rb4 Kf2 Ra8 Nf3 Rb2 R3a2 Rab8 Rxb2 Rxb2 Ne1 
 12	+0.84 	375407	0:00.02	Ra3 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rfa1 Ra8 R1a2 Rab8 Kf2 Rb2 Ke3 R2b4 Bf1 
 11	+0.69 	296298	0:00.01	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rb2 Ne1 Ra8 Kf1 Bc6 Kf2 
 10	+0.58 	162991	0:00.01	Ra3 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rfa1 Ra8 Kf1 Rab8 Ke2 Rb2 
  9	+0.92 	94204  	0:00.01	Ra1 Qb4 c3 Qb3 Ne1 Qb2 Qc2+ Qxc2 Nxc2 Rb2 
  8	+2.22 	49077  	0:00.00	Ra3 Qb4 Qe3 c3 Rfa1 
  7	+0.82 	43891  	0:00.00	Ra3 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rfa1 Rb2 
  6	+1.03 	28462  	0:00.00	c3 Qb3 Ra1 Qb2 Ra2 Qxd2 
  5	+1.62 	7478    	0:00.00	c3 Kh8 Ra1 Bc6 Ne1 
  4	+2.34 	4711    	0:00.00	c3 Kh8 Ra1 Nb2 
  3	+0.95 	3609    	0:00.00	c3 Kh8 Ra1 Nb2 
  2	+1.15 	2661    	0:00.00	c3 Bc6 
  1	+0.45 	1335    	0:00.00	Ra3 Nb2 
  0	# 

User avatar
MikeGL
Posts: 785
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:49 pm

Re: Beautiful game, highlights strengths of NN+MCTS

Post by MikeGL » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:36 am

Thanks. That's impressive. Even the Rh1 move was shown in your PV.
Maybe in part due to Mac Pro prowess, because I can't replicate on my slow machine.
MikeB wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:46 pm
MikeGL wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:49 am
Strong positional move. (Taken from Lc0-SF9 game below)

[d]1r4r1/3b1p1k/1q2pP1p/3pP1p1/n1pP2P1/4RN2/2PQ2BP/5RK1 w - - 3 33

After 32...Qd8-Qb6 of SF9 x64 bmi, Lc0 played a strong positional move which is not considered as best by SF9.
Here, Lc0 played 33.Kf2! activating its K and primarily to make way for the Rh1 move creating an
open h-file of its own (because SF9 already invaded the one and only open b-file).
This Kf2! is an amazing positional move because the position went downhill after this h4 break of Lc0 supported by Rh1 first.
Good win by Lc0.

Not sure if there are AB engines considering this 33.Kf2! move also.




[Event "Lc0server11261Stockfish9Nunn_5mas3HT6CPU1024syzygy"]
[Site "J-PC"]
[Date "2018.09.13"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Lc01711261syzygy"]
[Black "Stockfish_9_x64_syzygy"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "C19"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "18:49:13"]
[Variation "Winawer, 6...Ne7 7.Nf3 Qc7 8.a4 b6"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "300+3"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "136"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 c5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Qc7 7. Nf3 Ne7 8.
a4 b6 9. Bb5+ Bd7 10. Bd3 Nbc6 11. O-O h6 12. Re1 O-O 13. Ba3 Na5 14. Nh4
Bxa4 15. Re3 c4 16. Be2 Be8 17. f4 Nac6 18. Bg4 Bd7 19. Bh3 Qd8 20. Qd2 b5
21. Bc5 Kh7 22. g4 Rg8 23. Rf1 a5 24. f5 Nc8 25. f6 g5 26. Nf3 Nb6 27. Bd6
b4 28. Bg2 Na4 29. cxb4 axb4 30. Bxb4 Nxb4 31. Qxb4 Rb8 32. Qd2 Qb6 33. Kf2
Qb4 34. Qxb4 Rxb4 35. Rh1 Rb2 36. Ne1 Ra2 37. h4 gxh4 38. Bf3 Rg6 39. Rxh4
Kg8 40. Be2 Nb2 41. Ng2 Kf8 42. Nf4 Rg8 43. Rh1 Be8 44. Rc1 Ra4 45. Rh3 c3
46. Ke3 Nc4+ 47. Bxc4 Rxc4 48. Rb1 Rc8 49. Kf3 Ba4 50. Rh2 h5 51. Nxh5 Rh8
52. Rb7 Ra8 53. Rc7 Kg8 54. Rxc3 Rh6 55. Kf4 Be8 56. Rch3 Bb5 57. Kg5 Rh8
58. Nf4 Rxh3 59. Rxh3 Bc4 60. Kh6 Ra1 61. Re3 Rh1+ 62. Nh5 Ra1 63. Rc3 Kf8
64. Nf4 Ke8 65. g5 Rf1 66. Nh3 Be2 67. g6 fxg6 68. Ng5 Bg4 1-0

Game Creit: Javier Ros
latest dev-McCain ( current dev-SF also sees it on my machine)

Code: Select all

dep	score	nodes	time	(not shown:  tbhits	knps	seldep)
dep	score	nodes	time	(not shown:  tbhits	knps	seldep)
 36	+1.89!	3.04G	2:10.92	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Nc2 Ra4 Rc3+ Bf3 Ra3 Rxa3 Nxa3 Be2 Nc2 Nf3 Be4 Bd1 Ne3 Ba4 Bg6 Bb5 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Kf4 Ng2+! 
 35	+1.79 	2.52G	1:48.08	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Rb8 Nf3 Be4 Ne1 Nc2 Nxc2 Bxc2 Ra2 Bg6 Rd2 Rb3+ Kf4 Rb1 Bf3 Kh7 g5 Rb4 Bg4 Kg8 Bd1 Kf8 Ke3 Rb1 
 35	+1.78!	2.41G	1:43.47	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Rb8 Nf3 Be4 Ne1 Nc2 Nxc2 Bxc2 Ra2 Bg6 Rd2 Rb4 Bf3 Rb3 Kf4 Rc3! 
 34	+1.68 	2.13G	1:31.28	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Rb8 Ra3 Nc6 Nf3 Be4 Rc3 Bxf3 Rxc6 Bxg2 Kxg2 Kh7 Kf3 Kg6 
 33	+1.73 	2.00G	1:25.66	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Rb8 Nf3 Be4 Ne1 Nc6 Bxe4 dxe4 Ra4 Nb4 Ng2 Nd5 Ra3 Rb1 Ne3 Nxe3 Rxe3 Rb4 Kf4 Rxd4 Rxe4 
 33	+1.71!	1.98G	1:24.36	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 Rc3! 
 32	+1.61 	1.91G	1:21.44	Kf2 c3 Qd3+ Kh8 Rc1 Qb4 Rh1 Bb5 Qd1 Nb2 Qb1 Ba4 Kg3 Nd3 Qxb4 Nxb4 Rxc3 Rbc8 Rxc8 Rxc8 h4 gxh4+ Rxh4 Bxc2 Rxh6+ Kg8 Rh1 Be4 Ng5 Bg6 Ra1 Rb8 Nf3 Be4 Ne1 Nc6 Bxe4 dxe4 Ra4 Nb4 Ng2 Nd5 Ra3 Kh7 Nf4 Kh6 Nxd5 exd5 Kf4 Kg6 g5 Rb2 Rh3 Rf 
 32	+1.80!	1.12G	0:47.09	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ne1 Kg8 Reh3 Ba4 Bf3 Rb2 Kg3 Ra2 Rxh6 Rxh6 Rxh6 Nd7 g5 Nf8 Rh2 Ra1 Kf2 Rc1 Ke2 c3 Rh1 Bxc2! 
 31	+1.71 	936.7M	0:39.44	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ne1 Kg8 Reh3 Ba4 Bf3 Rb2 Kg3 Rb1 Rh1 Kf8 Rxh6 Rxh6 Rxh6 Kg8 Kf2 Rc1 g5 Bxc2 Nxc2 Rxc2+ Kg3 Rd2 g6 fxg6 Bg4 Rd3+ Kf2 Kf7 Rh7+ Kf8 Bxe6 
 31	+1.59!	826.5M	0:34.78	Kf2 c3 Qc1 Qb2 Rh1 Rb4 Bf1 Qxc1 Bd3+ Kh8 Rxc1 Rc8 Ree1 Nb2 Be2 Nc4 h4 Nd2! 
 31	+1.63!	759.0M	0:31.91	Kf2 c3 Qc1 Qb2 Rh1 Qxc1 Rxc1 Bb5 Kg3 h5 gxh5 g4 Ng1 Bd7 Ne2 Rb4 Ra1 Kh6 Ra3 Rgb8 Kh4 Bb5 Nxc3 Nxc3! 
 30	+1.54 	739.9M	0:31.12	Kf2 c3 Qc1 Qb2 Rh1 Qxc1 Rxc1 Rb4 Bf1 h5 h4 hxg4 Nxg5+ Rxg5 hxg5 Kg6 Rd1 Nb2 Ra1 Na4 Kg3 Kxg5 Rd1 Nb2 Rb1 Rxd4 Rxc3 Nc4 Bxc4 dxc4 Rb4 Re4 Rb7 Be8 
 30	+1.61!	651.6M	0:27.42	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ke2 Kg8 Ra3 Kf8 Ra7 c3! 
 29	+1.52 	528.7M	0:22.14	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ne1 Ba4 Bf3 c3 Be2 Rxd4 Bd3 Nc4 Reh3 Rxd3 Nxd3 Bxc2 Nf4 Nxe5 Nxg6 Kxg6 Rxc3 Bd1 Kg3 d4 Rc7 d3 Kf4 Nxg4 Rxg4+ Bxg4 Kxg4 Kxf6 
 29	+1.37?	508.4M	0:21.27	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rb2 Ne1 Ba4 Bf3 Rg6 Kg3 Rb1 Rh2 Rc1 Ree2 Bb5 Rh1 Na4 Reh2 Nc3 g5 Be8 Kf4 Kg8 gxh6 Kh7 Ke3? 
 29	+1.47?	452.6M	0:18.93	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ne1 Ba4 Ke2 Bb5 Reh3 c3+ Ke3 Rb1 Kf2 Rd1 Rxc3 Rxd4 Nf3 Rc4 Rxc4 Nxc4 Nd4? 
 28	+1.56 	418.4M	0:17.50	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Nb6 h4 gxh4 Rxh4 Rg6 Ne1 Ba4 Bf3 Rb2 Kg3 Rb1 Rh2 Rg5 Ree2 Na8 Rh4 Rg6 Ng2 Rg1 Kf2 Rc1 Nf4 Rg8 Nxd5 exd5 Bxd5 Kg6 Be4+ Kg5 Rh5+ Kxg4 Rxh6 
 28	+1.16!	207.3M	0:08.66	Kf2 Qb4 Rc1 Bc6 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rh1 Rb2 Ne1 Ra2 h4 Rb8! 
 27	+1.06 	171.6M	0:07.16	Kf2 Qb4 Rc1 Bc6 Kg3 Qxd2 Nxd2 Rb4 Ra3 Rgb8 Bf3 c3 Nb3 Kg8 Rca1 Nb2 Be2 Ra4 Kf3 Kf8 Ke3 Rba8 Rxa4 Rxa4 Bd3 Rxa1 Nxa1 Na4 
 27	+0.93?	135.7M	0:05.65	Ra1 Qb4 Qe1 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Bc6 Rea3 Ra8 Kf2 Nc3 Ke3 Nb5 Rxa8 Rxa8 Rxa8 Bxa8 Nf3 Nc3 Nd2 Nd1+ Ke2 Nc3+ Ke1 Nb5 Nf3 Bc6 Kd2 Kg8 Kd1? 
 27	+1.03?	134.1M	0:05.58	Ra1 Qb4 Rae1? 
 26	+1.12 	122.0M	0:05.08	Ra1 Qb4 Qe1 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Ra8 Rea3 Bc6 Kf2 Nc3 Ke3 Nb5 Ra6 Rgb8 Nf3 Nc3 Rxa8 Rxa8 Rxa8 Bxa8 Ng1 Nb1 Ke2 Kg6 Kd1 Nc3+ Ke1 Nb5 Ne2 Bb7 Kf2 
 26	+1.07!	103.3M	0:04.28	Kf2 Qb4 Rc1 Qxd2+ Nxd2 Rb2 Ra3 Rgb8 Bf3! 
 25	+0.98 	72.3M  	0:02.96	Kf2 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Ra3 Rgb8 Nd2 Kg8 Bf3 Bc6 Be2 Rb2 Rc1 Nb6 Ke3 Ra8 Rxa8+ Nxa8 Nb1 Ra2 Nc3 Ra3 Kd2 Nb6 Re1 Na4 Nxa4 Bxa4 Rb1 
 24	+0.76 	16.2M  	0:00.64	Ra3 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rfa1 Rgb8 Ne1 Rb1 Kf2 R8b4 Bf3 R1b2 Be2 Kg8 Bd1 Rb1 Bf3 R1b2 Be2 Bc6 c3 Rb8 
 23	+0.57 	15.7M  	0:00.62	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rgb8 Ne1 Rb1 Bf3 R8b2 Kf2 Rxa1 Rxa1 Bc6 Ke3 Kg8 Be2 Kf8 Ra3 Kg8 Kf3 Bd7 Kg2 Rb1 Kf2 Rb2 Ra1 Bc6 
 22	+0.64 	6.14M  	0:00.24	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rgb8 Ne1 Rb1 Bf3 R8b4 Kf2 R1b2 R3a2 Bc6 Rxb2 Rxb2 Ke3 Kg8 Be2 Rb8 Kf2 Rb4 Ra3 Rb2 Bf3 Kh7 Kg3 
 21	+0.64 	4.94M  	0:00.20	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rgb8 Ne1 Rb1 Kf2 R8b4 Bf3 R1b2 R3a2 Bc6 Rxb2 Rxb2 Bg2 Bd7 Bh1 Bc6 Bf3 Kg6 Ra3 Bd7 
 20	+0.72 	3.93M  	0:00.16	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rgb8 Ne1 Rb1 Kf2 Rxa1 Rxa1 Rb2 Bf3 Bc6 Ke3 Kg8 Kd2 Bd7 Be2 Kf8 Nf3 Bc6 h4 gxh4 
 19	+0.70 	3.46M  	0:00.14	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Qb2 Rea3 Nc3 Qe1 Nb5 R3a2 Qc3 Kf2 Rgd8 Qxc3 Nxc3 Ra3 Nb5 Ra6 Nc7 R6a2 Nb5 Ke1 Nc3 Ra3 Nb5 Ra6 Nc3 Kd2 Ne4+ Ke3 Rb2 
 18	+0.70 	2.66M  	0:00.11	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Qb2 Rea3 Nc3 Qe1 Nb5 R3a2 Qc3 Qxc3 Nxc3 Ra3 Ne2+ Kf2 Nf4 R1a2 Rb1 Ra6 Rc1 Ra7 
 17	+0.73 	1.89M  	0:00.08	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rgb8 Kf2 Rb2 Ne1 R8b4 R3a2 Kg6 Rxb2 Rxb2 Bf3 Bc6 Ra3 Rb4 Be2 
 16	+0.80 	1.32M  	0:00.06	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Nc3 Qe1 Na4 Rea3 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Rb4 Kf2 Ra8 Bf1 Kg8 Be2 Bc6 Bf3 Bd7 R1a2 Bc6 
 15	+0.85 	1.09M  	0:00.04	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Nc3 Qe1 Na4 Rea3 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Rb4 Kf2 Ra8 Nf3 Rb2 R3a2 Rab8 Rxb2 Rxb2 Ne1 Kg6 Bf3 
 14	+0.90 	892653	0:00.04	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Nc3 Qe1 Na4 Rea3 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Rb4 Bf1 Ra8 Kf2 Rb2 Be2 Ra6 R1a2 Rxa2 Rxa2 
 13	+0.80 	623161	0:00.03	Ra1 Qb4 Qf2 Nc3 Qe1 Na4 Rea3 Qxe1+ Nxe1 Rb4 Kf2 Ra8 Nf3 Rb2 R3a2 Rab8 Rxb2 Rxb2 Ne1 
 12	+0.84 	375407	0:00.02	Ra3 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rfa1 Ra8 R1a2 Rab8 Kf2 Rb2 Ke3 R2b4 Bf1 
 11	+0.69 	296298	0:00.01	Ra1 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rea3 Rb2 Ne1 Ra8 Kf1 Bc6 Kf2 
 10	+0.58 	162991	0:00.01	Ra3 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rfa1 Ra8 Kf1 Rab8 Ke2 Rb2 
  9	+0.92 	94204  	0:00.01	Ra1 Qb4 c3 Qb3 Ne1 Qb2 Qc2+ Qxc2 Nxc2 Rb2 
  8	+2.22 	49077  	0:00.00	Ra3 Qb4 Qe3 c3 Rfa1 
  7	+0.82 	43891  	0:00.00	Ra3 Qb4 Qxb4 Rxb4 Rfa1 Rb2 
  6	+1.03 	28462  	0:00.00	c3 Qb3 Ra1 Qb2 Ra2 Qxd2 
  5	+1.62 	7478    	0:00.00	c3 Kh8 Ra1 Bc6 Ne1 
  4	+2.34 	4711    	0:00.00	c3 Kh8 Ra1 Nb2 
  3	+0.95 	3609    	0:00.00	c3 Kh8 Ra1 Nb2 
  2	+1.15 	2661    	0:00.00	c3 Bc6 
  1	+0.45 	1335    	0:00.00	Ra3 Nb2 
  0	# 
I told my wife that a husband is like a fine wine; he gets better with age. The next day, she locked me in the cellar.

Javier Ros
Posts: 109
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:48 am
Location: Seville (SPAIN)
Full name: Javier Ros

Re: Beautiful game, highlights strengths of NN+MCTS

Post by Javier Ros » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:59 pm

Thank you for share these interesting analysis of the games!
I have played more games with lc0 not published due to lack of time.
This time I have managed to upload the games to the links below with the complete output of Arena, including eval, time, depth and PV.

Lc0 version 0.17 with net 11261 on Asus Geforce GTX 1060 3 Gb against Stockfish 9 with 6 threads on i7 4790S (4 cores and 8 threads), ponder Off, Hash tables 1 Gb. for both under Arena gui.
Using the following set of 12 opening positions of AlphaZero-Stockfish8 Test with white and black with tablebases support, 5 men syzygy for both engines.
LeR=3300*875/6640000=0.43

1. c4 *
1. d4 d5 2. c4 *
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 *
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 *
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 *
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 *
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 *
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 *
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 *
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 *
1. e4 c6 *
1. Nf3 Nf6 *

Lc01711261syzygy - Stockfish_9_x64_syzygy : 9,5/24 1-6-17 (=00===0==01=========00==) 40% -70
Stockfish_9_x64_syzygy - Lc01711261syzygy : 14,5/24 6-1-17 (=11===1==10=========11==) 60% +70

https://sites.google.com/site/unoallavo ... ects=0&d=1

Using the Nunn set of 10 opening positions with white and black. Playing at 5 minutes plus 3 seconds without tablebases

Lc01711261 - Stockfish_9_x64_bmi2 : 7,0/20 1-7-12 (==0=00=01====0=0=0==) 35% -108
Stockfish_9_x64_bmi2 - Lc01711261 : 13,0/20 7-1-12 (==1=11=10====1=1=1==) 65% +108

https://sites.google.com/site/unoallavo ... ects=0&d=1
The love relationship between a chess engine tester and his computer can be summarized in one sentence:
Until heat do us part.

User avatar
MikeGL
Posts: 785
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:49 pm

Re: Beautiful game, highlights strengths of NN+MCTS

Post by MikeGL » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:12 am

Thanks for the links, will download now and watch these instructive games.
Really interesting because of imbalances played by Lc0 not seen between two AB engines.
Javier Ros wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:59 pm
Thank you for share these interesting analysis of the games!
I have played more games with lc0 not published due to lack of time.
This time I have managed to upload the games to the links below with the complete output of Arena, including eval, time, depth and PV.

Lc0 version 0.17 with net 11261 on Asus Geforce GTX 1060 3 Gb against Stockfish 9 with 6 threads on i7 4790S (4 cores and 8 threads), ponder Off, Hash tables 1 Gb. for both under Arena gui.
Using the following set of 12 opening positions of AlphaZero-Stockfish8 Test with white and black with tablebases support, 5 men syzygy for both engines.
LeR=3300*875/6640000=0.43

1. c4 *
1. d4 d5 2. c4 *
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 *
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 *
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 *
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 *
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 *
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 *
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 *
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 *
1. e4 c6 *
1. Nf3 Nf6 *

Lc01711261syzygy - Stockfish_9_x64_syzygy : 9,5/24 1-6-17 (=00===0==01=========00==) 40% -70
Stockfish_9_x64_syzygy - Lc01711261syzygy : 14,5/24 6-1-17 (=11===1==10=========11==) 60% +70

https://sites.google.com/site/unoallavo ... ects=0&d=1

Using the Nunn set of 10 opening positions with white and black. Playing at 5 minutes plus 3 seconds without tablebases

Lc01711261 - Stockfish_9_x64_bmi2 : 7,0/20 1-7-12 (==0=00=01====0=0=0==) 35% -108
Stockfish_9_x64_bmi2 - Lc01711261 : 13,0/20 7-1-12 (==1=11=10====1=1=1==) 65% +108

https://sites.google.com/site/unoallavo ... ects=0&d=1
I told my wife that a husband is like a fine wine; he gets better with age. The next day, she locked me in the cellar.

Javier Ros
Posts: 109
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:48 am
Location: Seville (SPAIN)
Full name: Javier Ros

Re: Beautiful game, highlights strengths of NN+MCTS

Post by Javier Ros » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:50 pm

Lc0 version 0.17 with net 11261 on Asus Geforce GTX 1060 3 Gb against Houdini 6 Pro with 6 threads on i7 4790S (4 cores and 8 threads), ponder Off, Hash tables 1 Gb. for both under Arena gui.
Using the following set of 12 opening positions of AlphaZero-Stockfish8 Test with white and black without tablebases support.

LeR=3300*875/6640000=0.43 (respect Stockfish8)

1. c4 *
1. d4 d5 2. c4 *
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 *
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 *
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 *
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 *
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 *
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 *
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 *
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 *
1. e4 c6 *
1. Nf3 Nf6 *

Lc0server11261Houdini6Pro5mas3HT6CPU1024 2018

Houdini6Pro ½½½½½1½½0½01½½ 1½½½½½½½½½ 12.5/24
Lc017_11261 ½½½½½0½½1½10½½0½½½½½½½½½ 11.5/24

https://sites.google.com/site/unoallavo ... ects=0&d=1
The love relationship between a chess engine tester and his computer can be summarized in one sentence:
Until heat do us part.

Post Reply