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by BrendanJNorman
Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:16 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?
Replies: 198
Views: 5601

Re: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?

I think both of you are wrong. I believe that most of the time humans are thinking during a chess game is about calculating lines . Intuition help you to guess correctly the right line without calculation in most of the cases ... (snip) You say we are both wrong and then go on to basically agree wi...
by BrendanJNorman
Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:49 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?
Replies: 198
Views: 5601

Re: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?

If you don't believe someone when they tell you the truth it's your problem. I'm happier knowing that you don't know, and find funny how you think I'm playing at the same level of 2 years ago :mrgreen: I'll be nice and let you see a small part of my new account's graph, though... https://funkyimg.c...
by BrendanJNorman
Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:32 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?
Replies: 198
Views: 5601

Re: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?

Dude, I abandoned that account since ages ago, get on with the times. I'll leave you guessing how many hundred points I've improved since then, because you're incapable of holding a discussion that isn't based on the length of your... elo. Just curious, how many hundred elo points have YOU improved...
by BrendanJNorman
Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:30 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?
Replies: 198
Views: 5601

Re: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?pp

I wonder how a game between us would look like, it's possible I'd manage to reach a winning position and blew it up after missing some easy tactic, but at least it'd show I was better on the strategical department to reach it on the first place. 2 years ago this question was already answered, my fr...
by BrendanJNorman
Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:23 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?
Replies: 198
Views: 5601

Re: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?pp

LOL you got the wrong guy, the last 2300 elo player I defeated happened in March. You telling me this isn't your account? https://lichess.org/@/Ovyron/perf/blitz Strange, since I still have chat history in my inbox with you there. :) I'll stop discussing with you because you don't play the board, b...
by BrendanJNorman
Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:59 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?
Replies: 198
Views: 5601

Re: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?

Hello guys, hi Brendan, isn't this exactly what strong AI NN achieve? LC0 + big NN is impressively strong when set to "1 node" level, meaning without any in-depth search (playing best move according to NN policy). Yes. And this is why the play of NN engines always appear much more "human-like" than...
by BrendanJNorman
Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:42 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?
Replies: 198
Views: 5601

Re: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?pp

Because once a chess player thinks of a plan, on the next moves 0% of their time will be used thinking about a plan, because they already have a plan, the only time they have to think about formulating a plan again is when the opponent does something that makes the old plan unattainable or they alr...
by BrendanJNorman
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:17 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?
Replies: 198
Views: 5601

Re: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?pp

Suppose that you have a human thinking about a chess plan, but you give them a decade to plan their next move, and as time goes on their plan goes deeper and deeper. Finally, at the end of the decade they managed to come up with a plan that is a line that the engine found in 1 minute. You claimed t...
by BrendanJNorman
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:05 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?
Replies: 198
Views: 5601

Re: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?

At some point, computers will see 100 plies ahead. No matter how you look at it, that's strategic. It's not strategy or tactics. It's calculation. Both strategy and tactics are calculation. For computers, there is no strategy or tactics. It's just calculation. Strategy and tactics are meaningful co...
by BrendanJNorman
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:59 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?
Replies: 198
Views: 5601

Re: When will the chess programmers write an engine that plans ?

So why is it that intuition doesn't work against engines? Why is it that against engines the GM throws his knight in the air and it lands in the wrong square every time? 1. You said HUMAN chess is 99% calculation. I responded specifically to this claim. The reason it doesn't against engines is not ...