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by syzygy
Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75
Replies: 126
Views: 5692

Re: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75

In fact, the actual NNUE codebase in SF that was added is of complex status concerning the GPL. I speak specifically of the learning/training code. Sure, it is licensed under GPL, and I am not arguing that, but who's GPL license is the real question. As long as it is GPLv3, there is no question wha...
by syzygy
Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:55 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: Request for someone to train an NNUE for Ethereal
Replies: 12
Views: 735

Re: Request for someone to train an NNUE for Ethereal

Are those TCEC rules written up somewhere? TCEC refuses to take a stance on anything, not even Houdini. They have "Guidelines", found here : https://wiki.chessdom.org/TCEC_Cup_7_rules#Guidelines Note that they change every 24 hours. People not as jaded as me, will complain just as much. Thanks. Do ...
by syzygy
Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:04 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75
Replies: 126
Views: 5692

Re: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75

SF doesn't have a closed team of developers. Dozens of people have contributed to it, and the NNUE authors are among them. Perhaps we have a different understanding of what that means. Apparently we have, even though what I wrote is not very complex. I guess in your view 99% of Stockfish is not an ...
by syzygy
Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:29 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75
Replies: 126
Views: 5692

Re: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75

"Congrats to Stockfish for the incredible achievement. My middle finger to everyone else using it." I think I tried hard to explain in many places why NNUE is not Minic official evaluation, how it is a copy/paste of code and technology, and how it is just an experiment for me do dig into the NN wor...
by syzygy
Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:23 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75
Replies: 126
Views: 5692

Re: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75

first we lost Gull and Fizbo... after that, Andscacs... it seems Xiphos is not coming back either... and now Ethereal... people get scared too easily from this neural monsters like leela and SF NNUE... This shows that more effort needs to be put in eval functions, and not only in perfecting search....
by syzygy
Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:06 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75
Replies: 126
Views: 5692

Re: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75

"Congrats to Stockfish for the incredible achievement. My middle finger to everyone else using it." I think I tried hard to explain in many places why NNUE is not Minic official evaluation, how it is a copy/paste of code and technology, and how it is just an experiment for me do dig into the NN wor...
by syzygy
Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:04 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75
Replies: 126
Views: 5692

Re: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75

I think Robert Hyatt deserves mention for Crafty. For some time, it was the strongest open source program. I remember well the excitment of the Jakarta WCCC event. I think a lot of programs gained valuable insights from Crafty as well. He certainly does deserve a mention. I very much enjoyed readin...
by syzygy
Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:46 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75
Replies: 126
Views: 5692

Re: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75

I don't understand this gloom about NNUE. It's just a new evaluation term. Search is still there. Even if all engines implement SF NNUE's the rankings will remain, you only have to add 300 to the current one. It's not "a new evaluation term". A new evalution term doesn't discard the rest of the eva...
by syzygy
Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:10 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75
Replies: 126
Views: 5692

Re: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75

first we lost Gull and Fizbo... after that, Andscacs... it seems Xiphos is not coming back either... and now Ethereal... people get scared too easily from this neural monsters like leela and SF NNUE... This shows that more effort needs to be put in eval functions, and not only in perfecting search....