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by Rebel
Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:42 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Interesting reflection on a past statement
Replies: 63
Views: 8278

Re: Interesting reflection on a past statement

In essence it's the same, knowledge. And how to do things right. As a chess player you have learned form Bobby to be careful with your pawns in front of your king and you use that knowledge on the club. For a chess programmer counts the same, add that (learned) knowledge to your EVAL. And in an exi...
by Rebel
Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:06 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Interesting reflection on a past statement
Replies: 63
Views: 8278

Re: Interesting reflection on a past statement

Ed, I think you are getting defensive and saying things that are a little sillly because you think I am trying to claim something I am not. I am not making any accusations, or claiming anyone did anything. This has nothing to do with Zach's document or fruit or rybka or anything else. I am just say...
by Rebel
Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:00 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Interesting reflection on a past statement
Replies: 63
Views: 8278

Re: Interesting reflection on a past statement

Trust me, any reasonable experienced chess programmer reads C-sources as you read a chess book, especially when the C-source comes with comments what it is doing. No one has a problem with someone reading a book that says pawn shelter is good and trying to translate it into code; many (but not all) ...
by Rebel
Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:38 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Interesting reflection on a past statement
Replies: 63
Views: 8278

Re: Interesting reflection on a past statement

as he failed to comply with the rules that stated he should have supplied source code on request. Vas was never asked to hand-over his source code. Well, there is the post below from Cimiotti that shows that the suggestion that he should hand his code over, thereby proving his innocence, was put to...
by Rebel
Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:53 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Interesting reflection on a past statement
Replies: 63
Views: 8278

Re: Interesting reflection on a past statement

Just that the analogy of reading a chess book and looking at source is not apt. Sam, there can't be copyright on chess knowledge. The code is copyrighted, not its knowledge. My chess program in the 80's had more chess knowledge than Fruit. I can not say to Fabien, "you plagiarized my work". I also ...
by Rebel
Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:26 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Interesting reflection on a past statement
Replies: 63
Views: 8278

Re: Interesting reflection on a past statement

as he failed to comply with the rules that stated he should have supplied source code on request. Vas was never asked to hand-over his source code. Well, there is the post below from Cimiotti that shows that the suggestion that he should hand his code over, thereby proving his innocence, was put to...
by Rebel
Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:00 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Interesting reflection on a past statement
Replies: 63
Views: 8278

Re: Interesting reflection on a past statement

no, it was a general statement on the nuances and degrees of "own work", between re-implementing a choosen subset of well known ideas, let say I subset of K, and eval-features E subset F with first- (only linear dependent from E) and higher-order eval terms (depending on combinations of E, with two...
by Rebel
Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:55 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Interesting reflection on a past statement
Replies: 63
Views: 8278

Re: Interesting reflection on a past statement

hgm wrote:Then he should appeal based on that. Still not our concern.
Just recorrected you on a factual error you made.
by Rebel
Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:53 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Interesting reflection on a past statement
Replies: 63
Views: 8278

Re: Interesting reflection on a past statement

hgm wrote: as he failed to comply with the rules that stated he should have supplied source code on request.

Vas was never asked to hand-over his source code.
by Rebel
Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:51 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Interesting reflection on a past statement
Replies: 63
Views: 8278

Re: Interesting reflection on a past statement

Graham, this statement is about using ideas and algorithms, where you have zillions ^ zillion possible ways to implement stuff, and not about taking an open source program to translate already implemented ideas only to make it conform to own data structures , and then to do some modifications. Hi G...