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by Rebel
Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:04 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: how far is too far: houdini for sell?
Replies: 246
Views: 37597

Re: how far is too far: houdini for sell?

It is not the main explanation to Rybka's bad results because programs that are not stronger than Crafty could score 50% with average hardware in that CCT tournament when Rybka1.6.1 was clearly weaker than that. IMHO, it is not even clear that 1.6.1 was what played in the CCT event. The prior versi...
by Rebel
Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:33 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: how far is too far: houdini for sell?
Replies: 246
Views: 37597

Re: how far is too far: houdini for sell?

He started with GNUchess, and rewrote it completely. Nothing wrong with that. I remember clearly that he was really interested in the GNUchess move generator and how he improved it. I do not think my memory is playing me tricks: http://chessgames.com/player/ferret Your memory is fine :wink: EDIT - ...
by Rebel
Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:41 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: how far is too far: houdini for sell?
Replies: 246
Views: 37597

Re: how far is too far: houdini for sell?

He started with GNUchess, and rewrote it completely. Nothing wrong with that. I remember clearly that he was really interested in the GNUchess move generator and how he improved it. I do not think my memory is playing me tricks: http://chessgames.com/player/ferret Your memory is fine :wink: EDIT - ...
by Rebel
Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:07 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Whether Crafty is a Derivative Program?
Replies: 41
Views: 7228

Re: Whether Crafty is a Derivative Program?

Sean Evans wrote:
Rebel wrote:
Sean Evans wrote:It does seem the evidence is mounting!
No, it does not. Not one single byte.
Schroder, you seem to be speaking out of both sides of your mouth...same as at rgcc.

Cordially,

Sean
Sean, my old rgcc trolling friend, is it really you ?

Cherry cordial regards.
by Rebel
Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:14 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Whether Crafty is a Derivative Program?
Replies: 41
Views: 7228

Re: Whether Crafty is a Derivative Program?

Sean Evans wrote:It does seem the evidence is mounting!
No, it does not. Not one single byte.
by Rebel
Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:07 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Mr. Dailey did you take advantage of Ippolit and Stockfish?
Replies: 51
Views: 9359

Re: Mr. Dailey did you take advantage of Ippolit and Stockfi

No one just shows up with the #1 rated program in the World without being established in some form to the Computer Chess Community as a whole. It just doesn't happen. Peter You're wrong on this point, Peter. Remember Fabien (Fruit's author)? He was entirely unknown to the chess programming communit...
by Rebel
Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:05 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: how far is too far: houdini for sell?
Replies: 246
Views: 37597

Re: how far is too far: houdini for sell?

I don't feel that I'm a victim of anything here. Your argument should be with the ICGA not talkchess forum members who had nothing to do with the decision. Please realize the topic has been derailed at the moment. It started with the CSVN faults where I used some pot-kettle arguments in return. If ...
by Rebel
Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:37 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: how far is too far: houdini for sell?
Replies: 246
Views: 37597

Re: how far is too far: houdini for sell?

The main criticism on [a] is that the ICGA gave Rybka's direct competitors a vote of whom many had an interest in a guilty verdict. Ed, This is something I want to challenge. We have heard this over and over again and I find it incredibly offensive. It's used as the primary explanation for why Rybk...
by Rebel
Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:37 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: how far is too far: houdini for sell?
Replies: 246
Views: 37597

Re: how far is too far: houdini for sell?

Hi Ed, I don't think that we need a new organisation. ICGA is fine, most of the members are programmers or have been programmers of game playing entitities. So why found a new organisation when we have already one. That doesn't help at all. If we quit with rule #2 this is the end of competition. Fo...
by Rebel
Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:17 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: how far is too far: houdini for sell?
Replies: 246
Views: 37597

Re: how far is too far: houdini for sell?

I like radical ideas, or at least the discussion thereof, because they help us look ahead. I completely agree with you we face a new reality and that it is wise to reconsider what we want with these tournaments. To me that is the only discussion worthwhile at this moment. Marcel, 100% agree. All of...