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by lkaufman
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: opposite castling armageddon
Replies: 40
Views: 2522

Re: opposite castling armageddon

The programs play draws because they are similar and have no idea what chess is and what the target of chess is: to mate the opponent. Instead they shuffle the pieces arround , calculate until depth 40 and if no material can be won they make draw. They also have no idea about why one side should ca...
by lkaufman
Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: RSIF as alternative to armageddon
Replies: 70
Views: 3749

Re: RSIF as alternative to armageddon

someone would have to redo tablebases to be consistent with my stalemate/bare king rule. [...] This would help a little towards equalizing the game, since probably Black has some advantage overall with my rules. If syzygy doesn't offer a win in sight, it will only provide draw suggestions, a modifi...
by lkaufman
Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: RSIF as alternative to armageddon
Replies: 70
Views: 3749

Re: RSIF as alternative to armageddon

4. Fifty move rule is a win for Black. 4. I can't agree with that, at least for engine play, where you may have a mating sequence well in excess of 50 moves. Yeah, you could have an engine with tablebases announce mate in 300 and resign simultaneously. The rule could be that if there is a tablebase...
by lkaufman
Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: opposite castling armageddon
Replies: 40
Views: 2522

Re: opposite castling armageddon

It seems that the results and opinions posted here generally indicate that my proposal does not give White enough advantage to fully offset draw odds, at least with engine play. Therefore I'll propose instead the variant I mentioned in which White has normal castling options but Black has only the ...
by lkaufman
Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: RSIF as alternative to armageddon
Replies: 70
Views: 3749

Re: RSIF as alternative to armageddon

Well, we know that fifty isn't enough for a lot of endings. Probably if my rules were to be adopted, we should either raise the 50 (perhaps to 75), or else list some exceptions where the number might go up to 100, like they used to do before the computers got involved.
by lkaufman
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: RSIF as alternative to armageddon
Replies: 70
Views: 3749

Re: RSIF as alternative to armageddon

Neat idea - I'll try to play a few games with friends who like variants. What happens if two conflicting conditions occur on the same move? For example, here, after black plays 1... Rc6, white plays 2. Nxc6, resulting in both stalemate and insufficient material. k1r5/8/1K6/4N3/8/8/8/8 b - - 0 1 Rep...
by lkaufman
Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: opposite castling armageddon
Replies: 40
Views: 2522

Re: opposite castling armageddon

It seems that the results and opinions posted here generally indicate that my proposal does not give White enough advantage to fully offset draw odds, at least with engine play. Therefore I'll propose instead the variant I mentioned in which White has normal castling options but Black has only the ...
by lkaufman
Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:07 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: RSIF as alternative to armageddon
Replies: 70
Views: 3749

Re: RSIF as alternative to armageddon

I see from the game you posted how the repetition rule has huge effects thruout the endgame. So here is a simple alternative: 1. Three time repetition is illegal. 2. Stalemate is a loss for the stalemated side. (old rule) 3. Bare King loses. (old rule) 4. Fifty move rule is a win for Black. I had al...
by lkaufman
Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:17 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: RSIF as alternative to armageddon
Replies: 70
Views: 3749

Re: RSIF as alternative to armageddon

Inspired from a post by Larry at http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=71367 on finding a way to eliminate draw result in a chess game without too much rule and game changes mainly for humans and perhaps for engines too. Introducing RSIF (Repetition Stalemate Insufficient Fifty) These are...
by lkaufman
Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:59 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: opposite castling armageddon
Replies: 40
Views: 2522

Re: opposite castling armageddon

It seems that the results and opinions posted here generally indicate that my proposal does not give White enough advantage to fully offset draw odds, at least with engine play. Therefore I'll propose instead the variant I mentioned in which White has normal castling options but Black has only the q...