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by lkaufman
Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:09 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Dragon vs GM Nakamura Analog Handicap Match
Replies: 84
Views: 3107

Re: Dragon vs GM Nakamura Analog Handicap Match

Nordlandia wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:19 pm
Dragon MCTS beat Komodo 14.1 in standard play ?
It should, although I'll have to run a match to be precise about that.
by lkaufman
Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:00 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Dragon vs GM Nakamura Analog Handicap Match
Replies: 84
Views: 3107

Re: Dragon vs GM Nakamura Analog Handicap Match

I do think now that Dragon will crush Penguin at Knight handicap at 1+1 ! Incredible performance from Kromodo. I am NOT too sure about that Humans under pressure blunder, but a Knight is a Knight and if penguin is at least 2450 he might beat Komodo MCTS as long as he keep a fortress up to the point...
by lkaufman
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:53 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Dragon vs GM Nakamura Analog Handicap Match
Replies: 84
Views: 3107

Re: Dragon vs GM Nakamura Analog Handicap Match

I think streaming on his twitch stream was Nakamura’s choice. That is true and reason for losing so bad, If Carlsen ever accept this type of challenge he would at least draw 4 to 4 the match. Plus people here post that the MCTS is at least 80 Elo weaker, that could be when you are matching against ...
by lkaufman
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Dragon versus Nakamura
Replies: 85
Views: 3913

Re: Dragon versus Nakamura

Someone proposed Rook for Two Minors in the Twitch chat. This is a considered a huge advantage. Is this something to consider as future odds configuration ? Yes, it has been proposed before, but never tried. Two knights for rook is probably a bit more than two pawns handicap. Worth a try. Two bisho...
by lkaufman
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:39 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Dragon versus Nakamura
Replies: 85
Views: 3913

Re: Dragon versus Nakamura

Nakamura psyched himself out. I don't think he realized he was playing the MCTS version. I mentioned we used MCTS mode in the chess.com chat along the side of the game board. He speculated there was a more aggressive setting. The only change was MCTS mode. In both regular and MCTS mode we used a lo...
by lkaufman
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:33 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Dragon versus Nakamura
Replies: 85
Views: 3913

Re: Dragon versus Nakamura

Nakamura should have been given the white pieces. Just a couple of inaccuries and Dragon may equalize. Human does not have much margin of error to go on against top engines, even with odds. The problem with this is that we played a series of such rapid games (two Black pawn odds, same pawns as Naka...
by lkaufman
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:29 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Dragon versus Nakamura
Replies: 85
Views: 3913

Re: Dragon versus Nakamura

I thought Dragon would trash him, but not by so large a margin. Was he tired? I wouldn't say "tired". But he played too quickly, was too distracted reading messages, and seemed to be upset that we had changed something (mcts), even though there was no rule against changing settings and we had made ...
by lkaufman
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:15 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Tournaments and Matches
Topic: FGRL - 16 Cores vs RTX 2070 rating list - 6. Dragon by Komodo Chess 1.0
Replies: 2
Views: 267

Re: FGRL - 16 Cores vs RTX 2070 rating list - 6. Dragon by Komodo Chess 1.0

Dragon just eleven elo behind SF12 after 2500 games! Can't complain about that! The result suggests that direct matches between them make Dragon look worse than comparing the results against a range of NN opponents do.
by lkaufman
Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:15 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Dragon vs GM Nakamura Analog Handicap Match
Replies: 84
Views: 3107

Re: Dragon vs GM Nakamura Analog Handicap Match

4 - 0 ??? MCTS was turned on? And Naka felt it so dramatically? (complained several times) MCTS is 100 elo weaker, but if I’m prepping for a human opponent, I’d use it over SF and leela. Knight odds in rapid seem not very far away now. I think it was Naka saying that Knight odds will never happen e...
by lkaufman
Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Dragon vs GM Nakamura Analog Handicap Match
Replies: 84
Views: 3107

Re: Dragon vs GM Nakamura Analog Handicap Match

Dragon vs. my son Ray was drawn 2 to 2 at knight odds, same tc as the Naka match. So if the difference in the odds offsets the strength difference between Naka and Ray, the Dragon vs Naka match should be close. It should be noted that standard Dragon lost 1.5 to 0.5 to Ray, while MCTS Dragon won by...