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by Milos
Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:31 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 39574

Re: Alphazero news

That is not true. It's definitely possible to get the paper accepted without reviewers all being happy . But the publication policies of Nature & Science probably shouldn't be the main topic here. Oh yeah? How many Science or Nature papers do you have to your name that did not have the approval of ...
by Milos
Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:07 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 39574

Re: Alphazero news

Is it because people who wrote those 'fully decent' papers are not Google-branded? But in my view a 'decent paper' is still a decent paper even if it is published on a morning newspaper. You have no idea how is to publish in "Nature" and "Science" (Deep Mind publishing in both on this same theme). ...
by Milos
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:39 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 39574

Re: Alphazero news

Is it because people who wrote those 'fully decent' papers are not Google-branded? But in my view a 'decent paper' is still a decent paper even if it is published on a morning newspaper. Conspiracy theories are the hallmark of paranoia. You have to 'pass' 3 anonymous peer reviewers, and if only a s...
by Milos
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:06 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 39574

Re: Alphazero news

Is it because people who wrote those 'fully decent' papers are not Google-branded? But in my view a 'decent paper' is still a decent paper even if it is published on a morning newspaper. You have no idea how is to publish in "Nature" and "Science" (Deep Mind publishing in both on this same theme). ...
by Milos
Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 39574

Re: Alphazero news

You're aware that this paper was submitted a year ago, right, long before the RTX series was announced? Google had no say the lead time here; that was up to the journal. Not true, the paper was submitted in March, RTX was announced in August, but unofficially it was very well known that 20xx genera...
by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 39574

Re: Alphazero news

I'm not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. Google in general open-sources software for a lot of reasons, probably fairly similar to how other companies that deal with OSS works. Look at the amount of stuff flowing into the Linux kernel—is that for “only for PR purposes”? If so, that's really e...
by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:27 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 39574

Re: Alphazero news

I think it goes deeper than that. If someone, even someone whose knowledge and technical savvy you deeply respected, had told you a few years ago that they could get a program that was nearly one thousand times slower in NPS to compete and even beat the best of the day on a PC, I am guessing you wo...
by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Alphazero news
Replies: 381
Views: 39574

Re: Alphazero news

I think it goes deeper than that. If someone, even someone whose knowledge and technical savvy you deeply respected, had told you a few years ago that they could get a program that was nearly one thousand times slower in NPS to compete and even beat the best of the day on a PC, I am guessing you wo...
by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:53 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Bad scaling of AlphaZero to long time control (LTC)?
Replies: 9
Views: 1437

Re: Bad scaling of AlphaZero to long time control (LTC)?

But, now, heck no, this is not what this reads like. They are varying only the TC used by A0 to 1/3, 1/10, 1/30, 1/100, keeping SF8 at fixed TCEC time control. As I read fast these diagrams and tables (I am very bright person, you know :lol: ), it instantly struck me that the scaling of A0 is bad, ...
by Milos
Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:43 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Bad scaling of AlphaZero to long time control (LTC)?
Replies: 9
Views: 1437

Re: Bad scaling of AlphaZero to long time control (LTC)?

This is the reverse conclusion from what was reported initially, namely that the AlphaZero advantage over Stockfish would shrink to nothing at faster TC. So it is a bit suspect. Could it be that Stockfish scales even less than 12 Elo per doubling, at this level of play? Unless this new AlphaZero ha...