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by crem
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:26 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Fritz 17
Replies: 256
Views: 16384

Re: Fritz 17

Please forgive me if I missed it, but what is the size of the neural network of Fat Fritz? It is a 256x20 Net. But the file on HDD is compressed - it can no be read by lc0 0.22.0, only by the FatFritz-Engine.exe It's not compressed, they just changed the header for Lc0 not to be able to load it. Lc...
by crem
Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: UCI Win/Draw/Loss reporting
Replies: 60
Views: 2805

Re: UCI Win/Draw/Loss reporting

I thought UCI options were not case sensitive. In many GUIs the options are showed to the user without modifying the case. Also some people save the output of the engine to a txt file. For example Stockfish almost fully respect that convention: option name Debug Log File type string default option ...
by crem
Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: UCI Win/Draw/Loss reporting
Replies: 60
Views: 2805

Re: UCI Win/Draw/Loss reporting

I missed this discussion. So what is agreed up on: info wdl 200 600 200 format for uci, and what for xboard? Thanks. I don't think anything has been agreed upon, but Fritz 17 is now confirmed to ship with a modified lc0 that has the patch pointed out in the original post: https://github.com/DanielU...
by crem
Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:50 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: "Fat fritz" stronger than Stockfish ?
Replies: 79
Views: 13022

Re: "Fat fritz" stronger than Stockfish ?

I am also unsure about the argument of price always being proportionate to the work, but regardless will say that thousands of man hours have gone into this project from me alone Few thousand of man hours is probably more than all human effort in LCZero project combined! One full-time working year ...
by crem
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: "Fat fritz" stronger than Stockfish ?
Replies: 79
Views: 13022

Re: "Fat fritz" stronger than Stockfish ?

I am also unsure about the argument of price always being proportionate to the work, but regardless will say that thousands of man hours have gone into this project from me alone Few thousand of man hours is probably more than all human effort in LCZero project combined! One full-time working year ...
by crem
Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: UCI Win/Draw/Loss reporting
Replies: 60
Views: 2805

Re: UCI Win/Draw/Loss reporting

I agree that json is ugly, but I think using any other nicer syntax (LISP expressions?) would be worse as it's less standard. UCI protocol is very limiting and there's no easy way to extend it. That's why people often introduce different hacks to work around it. E.g. Lc0 interaction with Nibbler is ...
by crem
Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:36 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Programming and Technical Discussions
Topic: UCI Win/Draw/Loss reporting
Replies: 60
Views: 2805

Re: UCI Win/Draw/Loss reporting

Instead of adding a UCI option for every individual feature, I would prefer to have some "extension" of UCI added and switched on with one option. For example, it can be UCI_jsonExtension, and then uci info command could have something like uci info ... json {wdl:[0.2,0.3,0.5],other_field:"spaceless...
by crem
Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:58 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 9933

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

I would suggest this has more to do with the nature of mcts. Ah, and also when I asked Allie's author that question (why are eval graphs so similar), he suggested that he's a wrong person to talk about that and I should talk to jjosh (author of "Stein" part of Allie+Stein), implying that it's not b...
by crem
Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 9933

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

dkappe, what uniqueness rule would you suggest to TCEC? Like I said already, for me I think it's the best to remove all mentions of disallowing clones/uniqueness completely from the rules, and just state that TD (aka "rule committee") decides what's interesting to watch. Basically like CCCC. That w...
by crem
Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:23 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules
Replies: 92
Views: 9933

Re: My failed attempt to change TCEC NN clone rules

Crem, If you look at the ScorpioNN graphs, they are also quite similar to the Leela kibitzer. I would suggest this has more to do with the nature of mcts. I'm not sure, to me ScorpioNN graphs look much more "jumpy" and it's not easy to confuse it: Blue-Lc0, Black-Allie, White-ScorpioNN https://medi...