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by jp
Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:19 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: CTF Survey
Replies: 73
Views: 3986

Re: CTF Survey

2. CTF should be closed
by jp
Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:58 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: 1.g4 opening is losing?
Replies: 451
Views: 57674

Re: 1.g4 opening is losing?

mmt wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:18 am
Probably better to play out some games starting in this position instead until SF better handles shuffling pieces.
Do you feel ready now for a re-match CC game with Ovyron?
by jp
Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:07 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela
Replies: 34
Views: 3492

Re: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela

Besides, apart from critisizing others test, do you sometimes post your own over here? If you want to prove something about "real engine strenght" without TBs, just run your own test. It was you who posted responding to Kai's tests. Look at your first post on page 2. You sounded confused about the ...
by jp
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:34 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela
Replies: 34
Views: 3492

Re: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela

Laskos wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:57 am
Do not use TBs and do not use any adjudications, it's important here, in this particular set-up.
by jp
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:01 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela
Replies: 34
Views: 3492

Re: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela

I was answering you, when you said: It's supposed to be a test of their endgame play, not whether they can look up TBs" That sounds to me that you're saying that to test engine endgame skills with TBs on is akin to test whether the engines can correctly look up TBs for conversion. Now you are sugge...
by jp
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:24 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela
Replies: 34
Views: 3492

Re: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela

Neither engine should get TBs. It's supposed to be a test of their endgame play, not whether they can look up TBs. It depens on what you mean by endgame play. For me endgame play in much larger than converting TBs positions. It doesn't matter to me if the engine cannot mate with N and B against a b...
by jp
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:00 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela
Replies: 34
Views: 3492

Re: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela

MMarco wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:06 am
... with 5-men syzygy ...
Do you mean both engines got 5-men TBs?

Neither engine should get TBs. It's supposed to be a test of their endgame play, not whether they can look up TBs.
by jp
Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:57 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela
Replies: 34
Views: 3492

Re: Policy determining quiet early opening preferences of Leela

Here is the SF12 performance against Fruit 2.1 in the same conditions: Score of SF_12 vs Fruit_21: 38 - 9 - 53 [0.645] 100 ... SF_12 playing White: 16 - 8 - 26 [0.580] 50 ... SF_12 playing Black: 22 - 1 - 27 [0.710] 50 ... White vs Black: 17 - 30 - 53 [0.435] 100 Elo difference: 103.7 +/- 46.5, LOS...
by jp
Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:41 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: A Crossroad in Computer Chess; Or Desperate Flailing for Relevance
Replies: 152
Views: 12745

Re: A Crossroad in Computer Chess; Or Desperate Flailing for Relevance

I'm working again now -- for chess.com actually. Its a juggling act, one which I'm losing, since I can't do 60 hours of Ethereal and 40 hours of work and 20 hours of family and 40 hours of sleep. Something has to go, and I'm pretty keen on all 4. Maybe you should try to recruit some more people to ...
by jp
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:00 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: A Crossroad in Computer Chess; Or Desperate Flailing for Relevance
Replies: 152
Views: 12745

Re: A Crossroad in Computer Chess; Or Desperate Flailing for Relevance

Maybe it's just my wishful thinking, but it seems to me that NNs are turning CC from a battle of programmers into a battle of mathematicians :P I'd say 80% of NN papers don't have any advanced math in them. It's a bit of a problem for the field - there is a lot of experimentation but less theory ab...