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by Gary Internet
Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:24 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are we sure that Stockfish NNUE is better than the Normal Stockfish ?
Replies: 89
Views: 20155

Re: Are we sure that Stockfish NNUE is better than the Normal Stockfish ?

Chessqueen wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:23 am
They should be testing the normal Stockfish Vs Stockfish NNUE instead of versus Komodo https://tcec-chess.com/live.html
They will be. The winner is SF Classic vs Komodo then goes on to play SFNNUE. You will get the match you want. Be patient.
by Gary Internet
Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:49 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Marvin 4.0.0
Replies: 9
Views: 1824

Re: Marvin 4.0.0

Is it true that Marvin now uses NNUE? If you click on the link in Martin's signature it will take you to the GitHub page of Marvin. One more click away, if you click where it currently says "305 commits" is this page - https://github.com/bmdanielsson/marvin-chess/commits/master . From what I can se...
by Gary Internet
Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:38 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Future of computer chess: 2 top engines?
Replies: 50
Views: 4538

Re: Future of computer chess: 2 top engines?

And now SF has +30 ELO patch/net if I understand correct :o . Soon 1 top engine. Please can you point me in the direction of wherever you read about this? Stockfish Dev is already 23 Elo above above Stockfish 12. If one patch/net really does gain 30 Elo above that 23, we're basically already on Sto...
by Gary Internet
Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:31 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75
Replies: 138
Views: 11663

Re: Final Release of Ethereal, V12.75

The thing that I'm finding interesting at the moment is Nemorino 6.00. With the addition of NNUE, Nemorino 6 has gained a massive amount of strength over version 5.00 and version 5.40. On Stefan Pohl's site, it basically achieved parity with Houdini 6.03 with a score of +219=563-218, over a 1,000 ga...
by Gary Internet
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:37 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Tournaments and Matches
Topic: SPCC: Testrun of Nemorino 6 finished
Replies: 9
Views: 1310

Re: SPCC: Testrun of Nemorino 6 finished

The fact that Nemorino 6 is now the same strength as Houdini 6.03 and Komodo 14 is insane. Nemorino 5.40 finished 10th (last place) in League 2 in TCEC Season 19 and will be starting in League 3 in Season 20. TCEC Cup 7 is going to be very interesting. It will be the first time we get to see what TC...
by Gary Internet
Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:47 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: A Crossroad in Computer Chess; Or Desperate Flailing for Relevance
Replies: 152
Views: 16525

Re: A Crossroad in Computer Chess; Or Desperate Flailing for Relevance

This is what Andrew is talking about. Nemorino 6, probably in the last couple of months has pretty much caught up to where Houdini 6.03 was. Look at the head-to-head results from Stefan Pohl posted below. It's also worth noting that Igel is probably around the same level of strength as Nemorino at t...
by Gary Internet
Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:45 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are we sure that Stockfish NNUE is better than the Normal Stockfish ?
Replies: 89
Views: 20155

Re: Are we sure that Stockfish NNUE is better than the Normal Stockfish ?

You can't use TCEC as an indicator of anything, because the sample size is tiny. Plus when strong engines use 176 threads and 64 GB to 128 GB hash and play at 5400+10 time control, even the engines that are weaker (like Ethereal or Fire) but still very strong, have way more chance of seeing deeper, ...
by Gary Internet
Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:57 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Tournaments and Matches
Topic: Stockfish NNUE SV Tests
Replies: 138
Views: 45641

Re: Stockfish NNUE SV Tests

Stockfish NNUE has a real scale problem. It doesn 't scale with time increment. I have mentioned this problem before in some chess forums. At 1 core, 30 sec + 0.5 sec time control the record is +128 elo in my tests but at 6 cores, 2 min + 1 sec tc the record is +74 elo. At Mark Young' s last test (...
by Gary Internet
Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:20 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Tournaments and Matches
Topic: SPCC: Testrun of SFnnue sv200728_1104 finished
Replies: 4
Views: 751

Re: SPCC: Testrun of SFnnue sv200728_1104 finished

This has to be the end of an era that people have talked about. This is a real step change in strength gain for an engine that runs on CPU only. Stefan's words say more than mine could: AB-testrun of SFnnue sv200728_1104 (nodchip avx2-compile) finished. Another huge Elo-gain: +18 Elo to SFnnue sv200...
by Gary Internet
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:15 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: Tournaments and Matches
Topic: FGRL rating list, 10 min + 6 sec - 5. Ethereal 12.25, 6. SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.2
Replies: 2
Views: 572

Re: FGRL rating list, 10 min + 6 sec - 5. Ethereal 12.25, 6. SlowChess Blitz Classic 2.2

This is the update I've been waiting for. I love your 10+6 list it has the biggest head-to-head sample size out there apart from Stefan Pohl, but the games are still played at a slow enough time control that I could watch them. Anyway, I just thought I'd post a small snapshot of the head-to-head res...