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by corres
Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:35 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Lc0: Kiudee setting is very strong
Replies: 40
Views: 2663

Re: Lc0: Kiudee setting is very strong

... I am currently in the process of writing a distributed tuning framework for lc0, which we then could utilize to tune slower time controls than before. These parameters will then likely be better candidates as new defaults, than the currently circulating ones. I wait curiously the result of your...
by corres
Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:29 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are kiudee parameters the best?
Replies: 20
Views: 662

Re: Are kiudee parameters the best?

... If you want to tune yourself the main one imo. To start with is temperature policy. And go from there like cput. This widens or narrows the search. I would not get caught up in any type of node counting. Why Kuidee and other settings work is because it allows Lc0 to search deeper with the same ...
by corres
Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:49 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are kiudee parameters the best?
Replies: 20
Views: 662

Re: Are kiudee parameters the best?

... If you want to tune yourself the main one imo. To start with is temperature policy. And go from there like cput. This widens or narrows the search. I would not get caught up in any type of node counting. Why Kuidee and other settings work is because it allows Lc0 to search deeper with the same ...
by corres
Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:07 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are kiudee parameters the best?
Replies: 20
Views: 662

Re: Are kiudee parameters the best?

... If you want to tune yourself the main one imo. To start with is temperature policy. And go from there like cput. This widens or narrows the search. I would not get caught up in any type of node counting. Why Kuidee and other settings work is because it allows Lc0 to search deeper with the same ...
by corres
Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:02 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are kiudee parameters the best?
Replies: 20
Views: 662

Are kiudee parameters the best?

I made some tests with and without kiudee parameters. Hardware AMD Threadripper 16 x 4.0 GHz 2 x RTX 2060 OC (~1 x RTX 2080 Ti OC) Common parameters of the tests Chess GUI: DeepFritz 14 Hash (for Stockfish): 2048 MB TC 1 min + 2 sec/move Openings my TestBook50 with altered colors (2 x 50 = 100 games...
by corres
Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:50 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Lc0: Kiudee setting is very strong
Replies: 40
Views: 2663

Re: Lc0: Kiudee setting is very strong

The repeated NN-longtime testrun of Lc0 0.23.1 LS12.2 with Kiudee-setting is finished. Impressive progress with long thinking-time, too. https://www.sp-cc.de/nn-longtime-testing.htm Because much more user use Lc0 nets, jHorthos net and SV nets than LS nets it would be more interesting to investigat...
by corres
Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:05 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SF 11 vs T60 Lc0
Replies: 37
Views: 2250

Re: SF 11 vs T60 Lc0

Of course the people that “know”, know that a big grid search for parameters at different time controls is expensive, long winded and not fun. That’s why these “special settings” only come along every once in a while, probably aren’t best or even good at most time controls, and are passed around li...
by corres
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:42 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SF 11 vs T60 Lc0
Replies: 37
Views: 2250

Re: SF 11 vs T60 Lc0

... Interesting fact.-- Alpha Zero beat Stockfish 8 after 44 million games training( in a controversal setting). T60 beat SF after 46 million games training in a seemingly fair setting ... Especially if if you mean under "fair setting" no using opening book as it happened during A0 - Stockfish 8 an...
by corres
Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:16 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Lc0: Kiudee setting is very strong
Replies: 40
Views: 2663

Re: Lc0: Kiudee setting is very strong

... Again, 40 Elo points gain is amazing . Is our reported result an "Armageddon" result or a normal, really experienced result? Using unbalanced start positions is not equivalent to using "Armageddon" method to modify the result of games. No, regular 3-mover human openings, somewhat unbalanced to ...
by corres
Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:58 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Lc0: Kiudee setting is very strong
Replies: 40
Views: 2663

Re: Lc0: Kiudee setting is very strong

... Thanks for the info, I can confirm at 30'' + 0.3'' in 200 games from unbalanced openings: Score of SV_256x20_1541_Kiudee vs SV_256x20_1541: 52 - 30 - 118 [0.555] 200 Elo difference: 38.37 +/- 30.78 Finished match The engine is Lc0 v0.23.2. With unbalanced openings in paired games one should use...