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by syzygy
Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:44 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 377
Views: 82755

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

Very good. Breaking a contract is not against the law or “illegal,” although it is governed by contract law. Clear enough? You may want to go with the OED or a more substantial dictionary. Copyright infringement is certainly illegal. A lawyer of my acquaintance expressed it this way: if you can go ...
by syzygy
Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:59 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: The Great Stockfish NPS Debate
Replies: 12
Views: 3111

Re: The Great Stockfish NPS Debate

Offtopic: I run SF-latest (abrok) in self-play from startpos (no book), fixed time per move (about 6 billiion nodes per move). And it played 1.c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 For many years, SF preferred e4 or d4. It is first time I see c4 This is horizon effect, or new nets really prefer c4 + g3? A horizon effect...
by syzygy
Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:55 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 377
Views: 82755

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

dkappe wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:20 am
Very good. Breaking a contract is not against the law or “illegal,” although it is governed by contract law. Clear enough? You may want to go with the OED or a more substantial dictionary.
Copyright infringement is certainly illegal.
by syzygy
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:30 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 377
Views: 82755

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

If I interpret you saying something along "CB might not be liable for Houdarts code" then yes, I think that might be something that whoever claimed copyright violation will have to prove. Though CB's version of Houdini does use code owned by CB. It's not just a distribution of the exact same versio...
by syzygy
Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:50 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 377
Views: 82755

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

Chessbase no longer sells H6. That change was after SF developers filed their complaint. Was it? My understanding is there was a negotiation prior to any lawsuit being filed (although it’s not clear if it’s actually been filed) during which CB withdrew H6 from its shop. It’s easy to get these facts...
by syzygy
Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:51 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 377
Views: 82755

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

We agree. My comment was meant to be a compliment to the SF maintainers for not posting here. If you mean they are not pushing for a smear campaign, then I fully agree. But I don't see a problem if they disclosed the complete arguments for their case. (Disclosing the H6 evidence is another matter o...
by syzygy
Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:42 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 377
Views: 82755

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

I never said it wasn't a crime. I just explained why the evidence is permissable in court and the reasoning behind the moral code of doing so. I'm not a lawyer but I live in the country where the case is filed and I have seen a lot of similar cases and I do know the moral reasoning behind it. Your ...
by syzygy
Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:38 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 377
Views: 82755

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

I feel like anyone bringing up the embedded network fiasco is only here to try undermine the legitimacy of Stockfish's lawsuit, and maybe cope with their hopeful views. I'm certain that this lawsuit would not have been filed on such a fragile argument. Surely there are people here that bought FF2 a...
by syzygy
Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:29 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 377
Views: 82755

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

In case you didn’t notice: https://stockfishchess.org/blog/2021/our-lawsuit-against-chessbase/ Even though we had our first successes, leading to a recall of the Fat Fritz 2 DVD and the termination of the sales of Houdini 6, we were unable to finalize our dispute out of court. Can the SF team, or t...
by syzygy
Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:28 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 377
Views: 82755

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

I already posted this earlier in the thread, and thats why I said "goal posts moved" when you dismissed it. I suppose you just did not read it: Dem Titel Fat Fritz 2.0 (DVD) liegen leider nicht die vollständigen GPL3-Lizenzbedingungen bei. Aus diesem Grund sind wir gezwungen, den Titel zurückzurufe...