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by Master Om
Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:27 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6388

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

What situation ? There's a mate on the board, the losing player is wasting everyone's time! many play till end. What part is "the end" is what we don't agree with, I say that if there's a mate on the board, the game is already over. The mating player has won, the other should resign. But its doesno...
by Master Om
Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:16 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6388

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Even if known or not known only an idiot chooses the longest path. Only an idiot would not resign in that situation. If I have mate in 10 against you, and you're not resigning, I can have my fun and mate you in 49 or any amount of moves I desire. I've won the game, it's my choice how I win it. If y...
by Master Om
Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6388

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Time is always a factor in game play. It's only a factor when the result of the game isn't known. When it's known one side has won the game, then time doesn't matter, and it's the responsibility of the losing player to resign when this is the case to save time. The winning player has already won on...
by Master Om
Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:10 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6388

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Qxf6 is clearly better move. Can't imagine the engine would ever lose or draw after Bxa7. Though Qxf6 might save some energy, I suppose. :D Thats why we called it "best" not good or better :D But in your initial post you used "fails". Not sure that finding a move that always wins is a failure. :win...
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:39 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6388

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Qxf6 is clearly better move. Can't imagine the engine would ever lose or draw after Bxa7. Though Qxf6 might save some energy, I suppose. :D Thats why we called it "best" not good or better :D But in your initial post you used "fails". Not sure that finding a move that always wins is a failure. :win...
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:36 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6388

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Also can u provide the links u mentioned above ? https://github.com/joergoster/Stockfish/tree/nnue_always https://github.com/syzygy1/Cfish/ Of Cfish you'll have to build your own compile of the latest version, releases are from July only. https://github.com/amchess/ShashChess/releases/tag/13.1 http...
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:36 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6388

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

zullil wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:23 pm
Master Om wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:53 pm

Qxf6 is clearly better move.
Can't imagine the engine would ever lose or draw after Bxa7.

Though Qxf6 might save some energy, I suppose. :D
Thats why we called it "best" not good or better :D
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6388

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Not sure "fails" is the right word here. For example, in the first posted position, it seems that Bxa7 is hardly failing: info depth 54 seldepth 69 multipv 1 score cp 548 nodes 85074237208 nps 30965621 hashfull 1000 tbhits 3333976 time 2747377 pv b8a7 c6e4 d3e4 e6e5 f1a1 b5b4 f3e3 b7b5 b3a4 b4c4 g2...
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:24 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6388

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Ranked second on Pohl's list: https://www.sp-cc.de/files/ergebnisse_nnue_schnell.txt With the latest SFNNUE it fails with that net too to find the key move. Something wrong in new SFNNUE. It's the hybrid- eval- üatch from end of July, not the net. Try one of July, if not the very latest one, or one...
by Master Om
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:49 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!
Replies: 32
Views: 6388

Re: SFNNUE Fails!! In this Positions!!

Dann Corbit wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:17 pm
Ranked second on Pohl's list:
https://www.sp-cc.de/files/ergebnisse_nnue_schnell.txt
With the latest SFNNUE it fails with that net too to find the key move. Something wrong in new SFNNUE.