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by mclane
Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow
Replies: 116
Views: 6971

Re: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow

I would prefer facebook messenger over Skype or whats APP chat.

Machines could be e.g.
Millennium the King that has 300 mhz arm cpu and can be reduced in mhz speed to calibrate strength.
Or fidelity on 68030 cpu.
Or Ed Schroeder chess machine 16 or 30 mhz arm
by mclane
Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:41 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow
Replies: 116
Views: 6971

Re: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow

How do you let modern programs run on 68030 hardware ? I have made a cross-compiler for 68k architecture. I took Cfish 8 and compiled it for 68030 linux target using gcc. I wanted to explore a thought experiment, that if programmers circa 1990 had known about software advances 25 years into the fut...
by mclane
Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:27 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow
Replies: 116
Views: 6971

Re: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow

The software progress is maybe only there because the hardware allows more resources. Or do you think Stockfish could gain the „progress“ as you call it with 32 kb rom and 4-8 kb ram and 8 Bit ? So you are not honest, the software progress is only possible because hardware has allowed the programmer...
by mclane
Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow
Replies: 116
Views: 6971

Re: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow

Ok i now understand better.
You said you have no machines, but you could emulate them on a normal pc with mess emulator.

You could emulate chess machine, Richard Lang mephistos etc.
Depends what you want.

https://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/i ... _Emulation
by mclane
Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:44 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow
Replies: 116
Views: 6971

Re: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow

The question is where do you want to go.

IMO this race about ELO and massive usage of resources is not the way computerchess should go.

NOT making the software faster is the way. But making the software more intelligent.


As mephisto III shows you can generate ELO even out of few NPS.
by mclane
Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:48 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow
Replies: 116
Views: 6971

Re: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow

I have no idea what you talk about. I sum up: Mephisto III S Glasgow 68000 (5-10 NPS) wins against stockfish 10. Even worse Mephisto III 8 bit 1802 1-3 NPS with 6.1 MHz wins against stockfish 10. Mephisto III 8 bit 1802 1 NPS 3.5 MHz on 4 AA batteries wins against stockfish 10 too. Ic0 plays better...
by mclane
Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow
Replies: 116
Views: 6971

Re: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow

How do you let modern programs run on 68030 hardware ?
by mclane
Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow
Replies: 116
Views: 6971

Re: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow

I have no idea what you talk about. I sum up: Mephisto III S Glasgow 68000 (5-10 NPS) wins against stockfish 10. Even worse Mephisto III 8 bit 1802 1-3 NPS with 6.1 MHz wins against stockfish 10. Mephisto III 8 bit 1802 1 NPS 3.5 MHz on 4 AA batteries wins against stockfish 10 too. Ic0 plays better ...
by mclane
Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow
Replies: 116
Views: 6971

Re: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow

What is MC69030 @20 Mhz ??

And what is your point. Mephisto III uses an 8 Bit cpu with 3.5 or 6 MHz.
by mclane
Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow
Replies: 116
Views: 6971

Re: stockfish 10 vs. Mephisto III S Glasgow

Experiment: People have told you so many times that those are not relevant because what is a node for Mesphito is nothing like what is a node for Stockfish? I hold that any decent programmer could make an engine that completely destroys Mephisto while searching even less nodes than Mephisto, but it...