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Or another way to put it..

Why is
Crystal,
CFish
Fisherov
RaubFish
Eman
Sugar AI
Corchess

etc.. exluded on the list..

I challenge you to write an engine yourself to use these weight files that would beat std stockfish even without using any nets at all for eval.. You and this A. Silver guy cannot of course do that, so what do you do? You rip of SF and then try to make a grab the money and run scheme before people ...

Right. I’ve built quite a number of nnue nets from non-stockfish data. They all have different styles of play. I particularly like the Harmon net — trained from FIDE 2300+ human games — and night nurse — trained from data of the mcts/nn bad gyal nets. You can see some of the dramatic differences in...

h1a8 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:04 am

If it's clear then why do others disagree? Fair question.

WHo disagrees apart from those persons with commercial intrest in this scam from CB??

It should at least clearly be called Stockfish and not Fat Frits on the list.. the engine is Stockfish and NOTHING else.. Just a specifik network..

A.Silver said, that the github net is weaker. And it is obvious, that this must be true. If not, nobody needed to buy FF2, so it would be crazy, if Chessbase would provide the strong commercial net on github for free. hmm.. That would be just as crazy as selling a chess-enginge including network th...

Werewolf wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:12 pm

Can someone comment as I'd prefer to give the benefit of the doubt if possible, I just can't replicate this result.

Option d Obviously ...

No. Only the commercial version of FF2 has the strong FF2 net. The ratinglists (CEGT, CCRL and me (SPCC)) got this version for testing. The net, which can be downloaded on the FF2-github website is weaker. Of course. Otherwise nobody would buy FF2 anymore. On what test have you confirmed it is "wea...

A question back to Dkappe -- Is it a violation of (whomever; Albert?) trained the Network to reverse engineer the binary and extract the weights into a typical Stockfish form? To distribute that? I would suggest anyone extracting or downloading then change some weights by a single RL run and then r...

More honest would be be to name all SF deriveraties Stockfish(name) for example Stockfish(FF2 network) in List..

Lol when do people buy a laptop just to play chess. Why does my company or Google give every software engineer a MacBook instead of an ASUS? To be fair, I think it's fine to prefer other laptops over a MacBook when it was Intel, but now, I dont see why anyone would buy a non MacBook laptop anymore,...