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by Alayan
Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:14 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 357
Views: 6393

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

An analogy to consider the problem differently: Imagine there is a law saying "chemical compound X can only be distributed alongside chemical compounds that do not explodes when mixed with X", in order to ensure safety. Chemical X explodes when mixed with chemical Y. No law restricts the distributio...
by Alayan
Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:02 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 357
Views: 6393

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

Everything starts with the copyright law question which permissions I need. The permission I need is the permission to distribute FF2 SF. So I invoke the GPLv3 to obtain permission for distributing the entire covered work "FF2 SF" (as part of a zip file), not for distributing the zip file as a whol...
by Alayan
Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:38 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 357
Views: 6393

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

The purpose of a video player is to play video files. A specific video file is in no way essential to it. If you don't have it bundled with the video player, it doesn't affect the functionality of the video player in any way. But you are misguided in thinking that program functionality plays any ro...
by Alayan
Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:11 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 357
Views: 6393

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

Comparing the role of a NNUE net in Stockfish and the role of a movie in a movie viewer or of a picture in a picture editor is misguided. I have seen this argument many times this week (mostly by dkappe), and I have been dumbfounded that it has been entertained as legitimate. The purpose of a video ...
by Alayan
Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:40 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 357
Views: 6393

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

If you distribute a compiled SF separately from an NNUE net specifically designed for SF (e.g. the two in a zip file), I don't see how this would force you to distribute the NNUE net under the GPL (assuming there is copyright on the NNUE net). In this scenario, if you don't distribute the NNUE net ...
by Alayan
Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:28 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?
Replies: 357
Views: 6393

Re: Are neural nets (the weights file) copyrightable?

As I understand it you cannot distribute a GPL'ed program unless you abide by its license (obviously). The GPL prohibits distributing a GPL'ed program together with a program which does have a GPL incompatible license if the two together constitute a modification of the original program (so that th...
by Alayan
Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:34 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2
Replies: 97
Views: 3290

Re: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

Because this is an internet forum, dkappe feels free from the social consequences that his behavior would have in normal human interactions.

Having a different or unpopular opinion should be allowed; constant dishonesty and provocation should not. I believe moderation should act.
by Alayan
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:58 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Rybka vs Fat Fritz controversies
Replies: 15
Views: 1284

Re: Rybka vs Fat Fritz controversies

1) Rybka had clear improvements over any other chess engine at the time, while FF2 doesn't. 2) To this day, many people still acknowledge Vas's contributions despite all the controversies, while ASilver has never contributed one single game to Stockfish or Leela training. I agree. Rybka may or may ...
by Alayan
Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:19 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: TCEC - Deciding a drawn result
Replies: 7
Views: 302

Re: TCEC - Deciding a drawn result

The proportion of wrongly adjudicated games (i.e;, games that would have had a decisive result if continued) is very low, especially between the strongest engines. Even if the position still looks "alive" to the human chess player's eye, if Stockfish and Leela both gives it a very drawish eval, they...
by Alayan
Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:51 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: M1 Apple Silicon for Chess?
Replies: 228
Views: 14231

Re: M1 Apple Silicon for Chess?

Worth trying then, will give an idea of the effect of throttling on the MBA. HOWEVER with regards to cross-system comparisons I have just realised, silly me, that of course the key outcome parameter is depth, not nodes. Using hyperthreads on an Intel / AMD system may possibly give a marginal depth ...