Start Your Engines

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Scally
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Re: Start Your Engines

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Thanks,

My bad, I thought it was within the info given by hitting A8, like position 1 & 4 is.


Cheers,

Al.
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Rebel wrote:About week-1, the first position seemed to be the hardest one but apparently not for Nigel Short. The king walk 1. Kh2 2. Kg3 3. Kf4 all the way to h6 is brilliant.
It seems the solution isn't unique and there's another 2 moves that also win, though.
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Ovyron wrote:
Rebel wrote:About week-1, the first position seemed to be the hardest one but apparently not for Nigel Short. The king walk 1. Kh2 2. Kg3 3. Kf4 all the way to h6 is brilliant.
It seems the solution isn't unique and there's another 2 moves that also win, though.
I got a +10 with Qf4 and never even looked at Kh2 until I found out I got that one wrong and then when I relooked at the position I immediately recognized the move was Kh2 with a king walk from years ago.
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MikeB wrote:I got a +10 with Qf4
c3 and Ne1!? also win.

I didn't check others, but I wonder if it's a position where almost anything wins, so I didn't expect such a position to appear, since it said "find the correct move", I thought the wrong ones were blunders.
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Ovyron wrote:
MikeB wrote:I got a +10 with Qf4
c3 and Ne1!? also win.

I didn't check others, but I wonder if it's a position where almost anything wins, so I didn't expect such a position to appear, since it said "find the correct move", I thought the wrong ones were blunders.
yea Black was pretty much dead loss, but Kh2 is the best move ;>)
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Already 6 entries are in, boy, you guys are fast, also some of the fast solution times surprised me, hello Vincent :wink:

Regarding position-3, the mate in x one - got different numbers and I rewarded the ones I consider correct. It doesn't mean I am correct. I think it's best we analyse the position next thursday till there is a mutual agreement and if needed the ranking will be adjusted.
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Re: Start Your Engines

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I'm getting this error right above the line where the FEN is shown:

error: invalid FEN in game 1: invalid fullmove 0 set to 1

Also, I'm already dreaming with the day a position is posted that nobody gets :twisted:
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I'm really slow........ I'm just looking at the positions of the first week and I can't understand position 2. ( engines are not able to explain it to me)

[d] b2r3r/k4p1p/p2q1np1/NppP4/3p1Q2/P4PPB/1PP4P/1K1RR3 w - - 0 1

here the best move is Rxd4 according engines and solution, but it's not a winning move.
The solution talk about Rxd4,cxd4? and then Re7+, but for the engines black reply is wrong and the correct one is Kb6 which give balck a little advantage

What I'm missing?
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ure missing nothing, ure absolutely correct :-)...it was Kasparov vs Topalov from Wijk aan Zee 1999...Topalov took (bravely)with cxd4 and lost while Kasparov missed ra7 and played qc3 instead (which is also winning)
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Spliffjiffer wrote:ure missing nothing, ure absolutely correct :-)...it was Kasparov vs Topalov from Wijk aan Zee 1999...Topalov took (bravely)with cxd4 and lost while Kasparov missed ra7 and played qc3 instead (which is also winning)
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[pgn]
[Event "Hoogovens"]
[Site "Wijk aan Zee NED"]
[Date "1999.01.20"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "4"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Garry Kasparov"]
[Black "Veselin Topalov"]
[ECO "B06"]
[WhiteElo "2812"]
[BlackElo "2700"]
[PlyCount "87"]

1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. Be3 Bg7 5. Qd2 c6 6. f3 b5
7. Nge2 Nbd7 8. Bh6 Bxh6 9. Qxh6 Bb7 10. a3 e5 11. O-O-O Qe7
12. Kb1 a6 13. Nc1 O-O-O 14. Nb3 exd4 15. Rxd4 c5 16. Rd1 Nb6
17. g3 Kb8 18. Na5 Ba8 19. Bh3 d5 20. Qf4+ Ka7 21. Rhe1 d4
22. Nd5 Nbxd5 23. exd5 Qd6 24. Rxd4 cxd4 25. Re7+ Kb6
26. Qxd4+ Kxa5 27. b4+ Ka4 28. Qc3 Qxd5 29. Ra7 Bb7 30. Rxb7
Qc4 31. Qxf6 Kxa3 32. Qxa6+ Kxb4 33. c3+ Kxc3 34. Qa1+ Kd2
35. Qb2+ Kd1 36. Bf1 Rd2 37. Rd7 Rxd7 38. Bxc4 bxc4 39. Qxh8
Rd3 40. Qa8 c3 41. Qa4+ Ke1 42. f4 f5 43. Kc1 Rd2 44. Qa7 1-0[/pgn]