128-core AMD server

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Adam Hair
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Re: 128-core AMD server

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Dann Corbit wrote:I bought the other one.
I believe that this settles the question of who sends the most money on electricity for computer chess.
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Re: 128-core AMD server

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Adam Hair wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:I bought the other one.
I believe that this settles the question of who sends the most money on electricity for computer chess.
When I throw the switch, the lights in Seattle dim and the Grand Coulee generators start to overheat.

Using an Infra-Red camera, you can see my house from outer space.
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Re: 128-core AMD server

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Rates in my area ramp up with usage and I have once in a while hit their "super overcharge now we're really serious" rate level, whatever they actually call it.

I am planning to get solar panels on the house next year.

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Re: 128-core AMD server

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I get notices: Your power usage keeps going up. Do you want us to teach you how to use less power?
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Re: 128-core AMD server

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Dann Corbit wrote: When I throw the switch, the lights in Seattle dim and the Grand Coulee generators start to overheat.

Using an Infra-Red camera, you can see my house from outer space.
8-)

Nice Frankenbeast you've got there!
My 'new' 24c 2p G34 kit suddenly looks decidedly puny!
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Re: 128-core AMD server

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Some benchmarks (Stockfish 8, 16G hash):

32-core dual Opteron (2xOpteron 6376, 1/4 of the AMD server box, Linux):
26.3M nps

24-core dual Opteron (2xOpteron 6344, Linux):
21.8M nps

dual Xeon 2670 (16 cores, Linux):
24.0M nps

i7-6900k (8 cores, Windows):
14.08M nps
noobpwnftw
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Re: 128-core AMD server

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I have a couple of Supermicro boxes that are 4/8 way Xeons.

1. Yes, you can run Windows.
2. Large memory allocation is transparent and far-side NUMA latency is not significant.
3. Most chess engines doesn't spread threads properly across Processor Groups when you have more than 64 cores, including SF.
4. You will almost always want more cores, <= 1TB memory usage of Xiangqi EGTBs takes about 3 years to build on 4x4669v4 running 24/7.
5. HT gives about 30% overall NPS increase but can cause ELO drop due to poor performance on logical cores.
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Re: 128-core AMD server

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Can you allocate all 128 cores to 1 task? Mine got here early, but I am going to have to buy a couple of cables at Frys to get it set up
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Re: 128-core AMD server

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Dann Corbit wrote:Can you allocate all 128 cores to 1 task?
Nope. As I said, it is basically four dual-CPU computers in one chassis, each with 32 cores.

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Re: 128-core AMD server

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Adam Hair wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:I bought the other one.
I believe that this settles the question of who sends the most money on electricity for computer chess.
Lol. Pretty much.
Advanced Micro Devices fan.