A french defence game

[zullil]

Qd2:

[d]k1r3r1/pp3pp1/b1n1p2p/q1PpP2P/5BP1/P1PB1N2/1nPQ1P2/R4RK1 b - - 0 18

-1.52 23... Qa4
[D] k1r3r1/pp3pp1/b1n1p2p/2PpP2P/q4BP1/P1PB1N2/1nPQ1P2/R4RK1 w - - 3 24

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Qd2:

[d]k1r3r1/pp3pp1/b1n1p2p/q1PpP2P/5BP1/P1PB1N2/1nPQ1P2/R4RK1 b - - 0 18

-1.52 23... Qa4
[D] k1r3r1/pp3pp1/b1n1p2p/2PpP2P/q4BP1/P1PB1N2/1nPQ1P2/R4RK1 w - - 3 24

Ne1:

[d]k1r3r1/pp3pp1/b1n1p2p/2PpP2P/q4BP1/P1PB4/1nPQ1P2/R3NRK1 b - - 0 19

and I offer you...

an analysis session from here.

black already has the advantage, whether black can possibly win is problematic, I think it is still a draw, but does not seem to concern us at all, as we wanted to investigate the theoretical side of the problem.

I guess SF shuffled me into too many inaccuracies.

it seems it has gotten stronger since the last time we met , refuting SF when it plays move by move is not that easy, especially when this drags out, human starts to lose stamina and concentration, especially in the summer heat.

next time I will be better prepared.

PS. playing a long-winding game vs SF is really difficult, one should allow all one's time on this, and I am not quite able to do this right now.

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

bad thing is I did not manage to prove white advantage, but this will happen sometime, sooner or later, by either engine output or substantial human, human/engine analysis, as the white position is simply won.

[zullil]

Ne1:

[d]k1r3r1/pp3pp1/b1n1p2p/2PpP2P/q4BP1/P1PB4/1nPQ1P2/R3NRK1 b - - 0 19

and I offer you...

an analysis session from here.

black already has the advantage, whether black can possibly win is problematic, I think it is still a draw, but does not seem to concern us at all, as we wanted to investigate the theoretical side of the problem.

I guess SF shuffled me into too many inaccuracies.

it seems it has gotten stronger since the last time we met , refuting SF when it plays move by move is not that easy, especially when this drags out, human starts to lose stamina and concentration, especially in the summer heat.

next time I will be better prepared.

PS. playing a long-winding game vs SF is really difficult, one should allow all one's time on this, and I am not quite able to do this right now.

OK, let's stop here. You are brave to challenge asmFish. Engines might not "understand" chess, but they can fake it rather well---and they never get tired.

[zullil]

Ne1:

[d]k1r3r1/pp3pp1/b1n1p2p/2PpP2P/q4BP1/P1PB4/1nPQ1P2/R3NRK1 b - - 0 19

and I offer you...

an analysis session from here.

black already has the advantage, whether black can possibly win is problematic, I think it is still a draw, but does not seem to concern us at all, as we wanted to investigate the theoretical side of the problem.

I guess SF shuffled me into too many inaccuracies.

it seems it has gotten stronger since the last time we met , refuting SF when it plays move by move is not that easy, especially when this drags out, human starts to lose stamina and concentration, especially in the summer heat.

next time I will be better prepared.

PS. playing a long-winding game vs SF is really difficult, one should allow all one's time on this, and I am not quite able to do this right now.

OK, let's stop here. You are brave to challenge asmFish. Engines might not "understand" chess, but they can fake it rather well---and they never get tired.

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-2.03 24... f6 25. exf6 gxf6 26. f3 f5 27. Bxa6 Qxa6 28. Bxh6 fxg4 29. fxg4 Rxg4+ 30. Ng2 Ne5 31. Rae1 Nbc4 32. Qe2 Qxa3 33. Bf4 Qxc5+ 34. Kh1 Rcg8 35. Qf2 Nd7 36. Rxe6 d4 37. Bh2 Qxh5 38. Nf4 Qf5 39. Qxd4 Rxf4 40. Rxf4 Qxe6 41. Qxc4 Qg6 42. Qd5 Re8 43. Qg2 Qe6 44. c4 Rh8 45. Rg4 Nc5 46. Rf4 Rg8 47. Qf3 Nd7 48. Re4 Qc6 49. Rf4 Qg6 50. Qe4 Qh6 51. Rg4 Rh8 52. Qf4 Qe6 53. Qg3 Nf6 54. Rg6 Qe4+ 55. Kg1 Qd4+ 56. Kg2 Qd2+ 57. Kf1 Qd1+ 58. Qe1 (depth 48, 1:53:34)

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Ne1:

[d]k1r3r1/pp3pp1/b1n1p2p/2PpP2P/q4BP1/P1PB4/1nPQ1P2/R3NRK1 b - - 0 19

and I offer you...

an analysis session from here.

black already has the advantage, whether black can possibly win is problematic, I think it is still a draw, but does not seem to concern us at all, as we wanted to investigate the theoretical side of the problem.

I guess SF shuffled me into too many inaccuracies.

it seems it has gotten stronger since the last time we met , refuting SF when it plays move by move is not that easy, especially when this drags out, human starts to lose stamina and concentration, especially in the summer heat.

next time I will be better prepared.

PS. playing a long-winding game vs SF is really difficult, one should allow all one's time on this, and I am not quite able to do this right now.

OK, let's stop here. You are brave to challenge asmFish. Engines might not "understand" chess, but they can fake it rather well---and they never get tired.

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-2.03 24... f6 25. exf6 gxf6 26. f3 f5 27. Bxa6 Qxa6 28. Bxh6 fxg4 29. fxg4 Rxg4+ 30. Ng2 Ne5 31. Rae1 Nbc4 32. Qe2 Qxa3 33. Bf4 Qxc5+ 34. Kh1 Rcg8 35. Qf2 Nd7 36. Rxe6 d4 37. Bh2 Qxh5 38. Nf4 Qf5 39. Qxd4 Rxf4 40. Rxf4 Qxe6 41. Qxc4 Qg6 42. Qd5 Re8 43. Qg2 Qe6 44. c4 Rh8 45. Rg4 Nc5 46. Rf4 Rg8 47. Qf3 Nd7 48. Re4 Qc6 49. Rf4 Qg6 50. Qe4 Qh6 51. Rg4 Rh8 52. Qf4 Qe6 53. Qg3 Nf6 54. Rg6 Qe4+ 55. Kg1 Qd4+ 56. Kg2 Qd2+ 57. Kf1 Qd1+ 58. Qe1 (depth 48, 1:53:34)

now, you want to deal the final blow to me.

I guess it would be much more interesting to analyse in-depth some of the lines close to the main diagram(after Ne7), but not in game mode, just analysis one, as playing with set time limits is energy-drainer, and I don't quite have lots of time these hours.

[Werewolf]

after Qa4, Qb1, while after Qa5 in the second line, Bd2

a) 7.g3!? Qa5!? 8.Bd2 Qa4 9.Qb1 o-o

b) 7.Nf3 Nbc6 8.Bd3 Qa5!? 9.Bd2 Bd7

I tell you what: show an advantage for white - nothing special just something - and I will buy your book

[mbabigian]

Bd2 is the obvious response here, but you understand very well I can not play against everybody, simultaneously...

I totally understand. There is no rush to respond. The g4 line has moved into a branch with very little data on my end so I'm having to generate it and that takes time. Your simul I hope will teach people something anyway! I've already learned a few things, and as Carlsen says, that is what is important and keeps chess interesting. In response to Bd2, I play Bd7.

[d] rn2k2r/pp1bnpp1/4p2p/q1ppP3/3P2P1/P1P2N2/2PB1P1P/R2QKB1R w KQkq - 0 10

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

after Qa4, Qb1, while after Qa5 in the second line, Bd2

a) 7.g3!? Qa5!? 8.Bd2 Qa4 9.Qb1 o-o

b) 7.Nf3 Nbc6 8.Bd3 Qa5!? 9.Bd2 Bd7

I tell you what: show an advantage for white - nothing special just something - and I will buy your book

promised?

in which of the 2 lines, or in both? ...

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Bd2 is the obvious response here, but you understand very well I can not play against everybody, simultaneously...

I totally understand. There is no rush to respond. The g4 line has moved into a branch with very little data on my end so I'm having to generate it and that takes time. Your simul I hope will teach people something anyway! I've already learned a few things, and as Carlsen says, that is what is important and keeps chess interesting. In response to Bd2, I play Bd7.

[d] rn2k2r/pp1bnpp1/4p2p/q1ppP3/3P2P1/P1P2N2/2PB1P1P/R2QKB1R w KQkq - 0 10

thanks.

I will be back, but in a couple of hours.

so far, I have never heard of a thing like simultaneous analysis, have you?

analysis tends to be much more demanding than normal games, so doing a simul there seems, I don't know what.

besides, the opponents to the person giving the simul are usually much below his level, while on this case I have to play a couple of SF instances.

not the easiest thing in the world, is it?