A french defence game

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Re: A french defence game

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
I am taking a break now, someone might want to continue in my place.

we are currently at ply 12 or so since the beginning, as said score changes in white's favour only after ply 30, so everything proceeding according to plan until now.

I am really very tired and that blitz control simply kills me, I might have missed at least a dozen better moves...
-0.65 12... Qa5
[D] r3k2r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2P2P2/R2QK2R w KQkq - 5 13

Let's stop now. According to asmFish, Black now has the advantage ...
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Re: A french defence game

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
I am taking a break now, someone might want to continue in my place.

we are currently at ply 12 or so since the beginning, as said score changes in white's favour only after ply 30, so everything proceeding according to plan until now.

I am really very tired and that blitz control simply kills me, I might have missed at least a dozen better moves...
-0.65 12... Qa5
[D] r3k2r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2P2P2/R2QK2R w KQkq - 5 13

Let's stop now. According to asmFish, Black now has the advantage ...
you don't know what you are talking.

white has substantial advantage.

all SF advantage for black lies in its head/code, and the wrong evaluation.
there is nothing concrete to see, so it reaches some nodes it evaluates incorrectly and returns a fully inverted score.

I might have missed some good moves for white, but white still leads by at least the margin SF currently sees black in the lead.

as said, you need some 30 plies to see white lead here, as the position requires a lot of manoeuvering.

Qd2:

[d]r3k2r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1P2/R3K2R b KQkq - 0 8
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Re: A french defence game

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did you surrender, Louis?
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Re: A french defence game

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:did you surrender, Louis?
Don't you sleep?

-0.64 13... O-O-O

[D] 2kr3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1P2/R3K2R w KQ - 7 14
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Re: A french defence game

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:did you surrender, Louis?
Don't you sleep?

-0.64 13... O-O-O

[D] 2kr3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1P2/R3K2R w KQ - 7 14
not, when I play SF. :)

0-0:

[d]2kr3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1P2/R4RK1 b - - 0 9

in couple of moves' time, SF should start scoring backward, reaching 0.0, and then all the way back, you know...:)
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Re: A french defence game

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: in couple of moves' time, SF should start scoring backward, reaching 0.0, and then all the way back, you know...:)
We're back, but only for a while today.

-0.77 14... Kb8
[D] 1k1r3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1P2/R4RK1 w - - 9 15
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Re: A french defence game

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: in couple of moves' time, SF should start scoring backward, reaching 0.0, and then all the way back, you know...:)
We're back, but only for a while today.

-0.77 14... Kb8
[D] 1k1r3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1P2/R4RK1 w - - 9 15
Kg2:

[d]1k1r3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1PK1/R4R2 b - - 0 10

I assess the position as won for white.
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Re: A french defence game

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:[
Kg2:

[d]1k1r3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1PK1/R4R2 b - - 0 10

I assess the position as won for white.
-0.73 15... Ka8
[D] k2r3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1PK1/R4R2 w - - 11 16
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Re: A french defence game

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:[
Kg2:

[d]1k1r3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1PK1/R4R2 b - - 0 10

I assess the position as won for white.
-0.73 15... Ka8
[D] k2r3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1PK1/R4R2 w - - 11 16
first 4cps from the inevitable climb-down. :)

Rfe1:

[d]k2r3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1PK1/R3R3 b - - 0 11
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Re: A french defence game

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:

[d]k2r3r/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1PK1/R3R3 b - - 0 11
-0.59 16... Rhg8
[D] k2r2r1/pp1n1pp1/2n1p2p/q1ppP2P/b2P1BP1/P1PB1N2/2PQ1PK1/R3R3 w - - 13 17