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Cranky Walters

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These positions are from various test sets by Walter Eigenmann. How many of them can your favorite engine solve?
Stockfish has an awful time with these.

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r1n2N1k/2n2K1p/3pp3/5Pp1/b5R1/8/1PPP4/8 w - - bm Ng6+;
4r1k1/1r1np3/1pqp1ppB/p7/2b1P1PQ/2P2P2/P3B2R/3R2K1 w - - bm Bg7;
8/2pN1k2/p4p1p/Pn1R4/3b4/6Pp/1P3K1P/8 w - - bm Ke1;
8/8/4p1Pk/1rp1K1p1/4P1P1/1nP2Q2/p2b1P2/8 w - - bm Kf6;
2kb4/p7/r1p3p1/p1P2pBp/R2P3P/2K3P1/5P2/8 w - - bm Bxd8;
r1k1n2n/8/pP6/5R2/8/1b1B4/4N3/1K5N w - - bm b7;
3r2k1/p1R2ppp/1p6/P1b1PP2/3p4/3R2B1/5PKP/1r6 w - - bm f6;
r1br2k1/7p/p2q1ppB/1p1P4/2P5/5N2/PQ3PPP/4R1K1 w - - bm Ng5;
4r1k1/pp5p/2p1bR2/2P5/2B1n3/2B2K2/PP5P/8 w - - bm Rxe6;
1k5r/pb3p1p/1q2rp1b/2p5/1pQ1P3/1P3N2/P3BPPP/3R1RK1 w - - bm Rd5;
2r1rbk1/p1qn2p1/3n1pp1/P1p1p3/1p2P1P1/1N3Q1P/1PP2P2/R1BR1BK1 w - - bm Rxd6;
r1r3k1/1bq2pp1/p4n1p/1p1npB2/PP6/2P2N2/1BQ2PPP/R3R1K1 b - - bm Nf4;
3rrnk1/p1n1qpp1/1p5p/2pRP3/2P4P/1P2Q1PB/PB5K/4R3 w - - bm Red1;
r1b2rk1/pp3pb1/3q2pp/2nP4/6P1/2P2N2/P1Q1BPP1/2BR1RK1 w - - bm Rd4;
5rk1/ppqb2pp/2n1p3/3pP3/2pP4/P1P1BN1Q/2P2PP1/R3K3 b Q - bm Rxf3;
2k5/1bp2B2/1b5r/1N1Pp2p/6r1/6B1/1P2RP2/R5K1 b - - bm h4;
r4rk1/ppnqp2p/3p2p1/2pP4/P1P2B1P/6P1/1P3PK1/R2Q1R2 b - - bm Rxf4;
r1q2k2/pppb3r/2n1pBp1/3pPp1p/3P1Q1P/P2B4/2P2PP1/R3K2R w KQ - bm g4;
r3kb1r/4Pp2/pn3P2/1pp3B1/2p5/2N3P1/PP3P1P/3RKB1b w kq - bm h4;
1r6/4k3/r2p2p1/2pR1p1p/2P1pP1P/pPK1P1P1/P7/1B6 b - - bm Rxb3+;
r3rnk1/1bq1bpp1/pp2p3/3pP2Q/P4p2/1NNB1R2/1PP4P/2KR4 w - - bm Rg1;
4K2k/1pQp3p/1R4p1/1P4P1/8/3P3P/1q3r2/8 w - - bm Qd8;
5B2/1p1nNp2/8/1P2R3/3p3q/8/p1K1P1Q1/k3b3 w - - bm Ng6;
2r1k1r1/3q4/p1nBpp1p/8/B5p1/4RbK1/PP1Q1P1P/2R5 w - - bm h4;
6r1/6r1/2p1k1pp/p1pbP2q/Pp1p1PpP/1P1P2NR/1KPQ3R/8 b - - bm Qf5;
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Re: Cranky Walters

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seems like a set that would need 5-10mins/position to see much of significance in the way of results, even h5 tactical is flailing quite badly at 1min/position
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Re: Cranky Walters

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yanquis1972 wrote:seems like a set that would need 5-10mins/position to see much of significance in the way of results, even h5 tactical is flailing quite badly at 1min/position
I am running Houdini and Komodo at about 1/2 hour per position on 10 cores.
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Re: Cranky Walters

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Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.
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Re: Cranky Walters

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I attached analysis files and the original EPD file to this post:
http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... pid=572595

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Re: Cranky Walters

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Thanks for posting. I find it fascinating to see the evidence of how much room for improvement remains, despite an already phenomenal software progress.

Another thought is the similarity of the leading programs today. You would think that various different positions would succumb to different programs, but it appears that they all have difficulties with this suite.

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Re: Cranky Walters

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Here are the EPD records with detail added from the analysis.
The last record for the Komodo task failed, because the chess tasks get killed on that machine at 2AM and I miscalculated how much time to allot.

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r4rk1/ppnqp2p/3p2p1/2pP4/P1P2B1P/6P1/1P3PK1/R2Q1R2 b - -  acd 40; acs 1078 ; acn 12805399580; ce 0 ; bm e6; pv e6 dxe6 Qc6+ f3 Nxe6 Bh6 Rf7 Qd5 Qxd5 cxd5 Nc7 Rfe1 Re8 Rxe8+ Nxe8 Rd1 Nc7 g4 Na6 Kg3 Nb4 f4 Nc2 Rc1 Nb4 Re1 Rd7 Re8+ Kf7 Rf8+ Ke7 Rh8 Kf6 Rf8+ Ke7; c1 "Komodo 10";
r4rk1/ppnqp2p/3p2p1/2pP4/P1P2B1P/6P1/1P3PK1/R2Q1R2 b - -  acd 34/78-; acs 2569 ; acn 40702618396; ce -16 ; bm e6; pv e6 dxe6; c1 "Houdini 5";
r3rnk1/1bq1bpp1/pp2p3/3pP2Q/P4p2/1NNB1R2/1PP4P/2KR4 w - -  acd 36-; acs 1229 ; acn 16451696150; ce 158 ; bm Rh3; pv Rh3 f5; c1 "Komodo 10";
r3rnk1/1bq1bpp1/pp2p3/3pP2Q/P4p2/1NNB1R2/1PP4P/2KR4 w - -  acd 32/80-; acs 2278 ; acn 33978484498; ce 183 ; bm Rh3; pv Rh3 f5; c1 "Houdini 5";
r3kb1r/4Pp2/pn3P2/1pp3B1/2p5/2N3P1/PP3P1P/3RKB1b w kq -  acd 39; acs 975 ; acn 12532399909; ce 0 ; bm exf8Q+; pv exf8Q+ Kxf8 Be3 Ke8 h4 Rd8 Rxd8+ Kxd8 a4 Nd5 Nxd5 Bxd5 Kd2 Kd7 axb5 axb5 Bxc5 Ra8 Bh3+ Kc6 Ba3 Be4 Ke3 Kd5 Be7 Ra1 Bb4 Ra4 Be7 Ra1; c1 "Komodo 10";
r3kb1r/4Pp2/pn3P2/1pp3B1/2p5/2N3P1/PP3P1P/3RKB1b w kq -  acd 36/67; acs 2070 ; acn 34223412649; ce 0 ; bm exf8Q+; pv exf8Q+ Kxf8 Be3 Rh5 Rd6 Rb8 Be2 Re5 Rd1 Ra8 Rd6 Rb8; c1 "Houdini 5";
r1r3k1/1bq2pp1/p4n1p/1p1npB2/PP6/2P2N2/1BQ2PPP/R3R1K1 b - -  acd 34-; acs 1013 ; acn 10608422743; ce 28 ; bm Re8; pv Re8 axb5; c1 "Komodo 10";
r1r3k1/1bq2pp1/p4n1p/1p1npB2/PP6/2P2N2/1BQ2PPP/R3R1K1 b - -  acd 31/63-; acs 2546 ; acn 37493479715; ce 41 ; bm Re8; pv Re8 axb5; c1 "Houdini 5";
r1q2k2/pppb3r/2n1pBp1/3pPp1p/3P1Q1P/P2B4/2P2PP1/R3K2R w KQ -  acd 37-; acs 1102 ; acn 11980650503; ce 84 ; bm 0-0; pv 0-0 Be8; c1 "Komodo 10";
r1q2k2/pppb3r/2n1pBp1/3pPp1p/3P1Q1P/P2B4/2P2PP1/R3K2R w KQ -  acd 28/63+; acs 2558 ; acn 35183336213; ce 243 ; bm g4; pv g4; c1 "Houdini 5";
r1n2N1k/2n2K1p/3pp3/5Pp1/b5R1/8/1PPP4/8 w - -  acd 44/79; acs 2288 ; acn 43494571173; ce 0 ; bm Ng6+; pv Ng6+ hxg6 Rg2 Be8+ Kf8 Ra4 b4 Rxb4 c4 Rxc4 d4 Rxd4 Rh2+ Rh4 Rxh4+ gxh4 fxg6 Bxg6; c1 "Houdini 5";
r1n2N1k/2n2K1p/3pp3/5Pp1/b5R1/8/1PPP4/8 w - -  acd 32; acs 1036 ; acn 13545742107; ce -1126 ; bm Rxg5; pv Rxg5 Be8+ Kf6 Ra5 fxe6 Rxg5 Kxg5 Kg7 e7 h6+ Kf5 Nxe7+ Ke4 Kxf8 c3 h5 Ke3 Ne6 d3 Kg7 Ke2 Kf6 Kf2 Nf5 b3 Nf4 d4 Bc6 Ke1 Ne6 Kf1 Be8 c4 Nexd4 b4 Ne3+ Kg1 Nxc4 b5 Nxb5 Kf2 Nd4 Kg2 Kg7 Kh2; c1 "Komodo 10";
r1k1n2n/8/pP6/5R2/8/1b1B4/4N3/1K5N w - -  acd 34+; acs 1221 ; acn 13080620634; ce 390 ; bm b7+; pv b7+ Kxb7 Be4+; c1 "Komodo 10";
r1k1n2n/8/pP6/5R2/8/1b1B4/4N3/1K5N w - -  acd 30/67; acs 2198 ; acn 43945399369; ce 359 ; bm b7+; pv b7+ Kxb7 Be4+ Ka7 Bxa8 Bf7 Nf4 Kxa8 Nf2 Kb7 N2d3 Kc7 Ne5 Nd6 Rf6 Bg8 Ne6+ Kb6 Ng5 Kc5 Nd3+ Kc6 Rf8 Bb3 Rxh8 a5 Kb2 Bd1 Nf2 Be2 Ne6 Kd7 Nd4 Bc4 Rh6 Bd5 Rh7+ Bf7 Kc3 Kc8 Rh6 Nb7 Rh8+; c1 "Houdini 5";
r1br2k1/7p/p2q1ppB/1p1P4/2P5/5N2/PQ3PPP/4R1K1 w - -  acd 39+; acs 1250 ; acn 16318631034; ce 162 ; bm Nd2; pv Nd2 Bf5 g4; c1 "Komodo 10";
r1br2k1/7p/p2q1ppB/1p1P4/2P5/5N2/PQ3PPP/4R1K1 w - -  acd 35/76; acs 2481 ; acn 40288963118; ce 196 ; bm Nd2; pv Nd2 Ra7 Ne4 Re7 f3 Rxe4 fxe4 bxc4 Qd4 Rd7 Bd2 Rf7 Rc1 Bd7 Rxc4 Qa3 Rc2 g5 h3 h5 d6 Qa4 Rc8+ Kg7 Rc4 Qd1+ Kh2 Kg6 Qe3 Qf1 Rc1 Qf4+ Qxf4 gxf4 Bxf4 h4 a3 Ba4 g3 hxg3+ Kxg3 Rb7 Rc3 Kf7 h4 Ke6 Rc7; c1 "Houdini 5";
r1b2rk1/pp3pb1/3q2pp/2nP4/6P1/2P2N2/P1Q1BPP1/2BR1RK1 w - -  acd 35+; acs 1116 ; acn 11398214164; ce 77 ; bm Nd4; pv Nd4 Bd7 Ba3; c1 "Komodo 10";
r1b2rk1/pp3pb1/3q2pp/2nP4/6P1/2P2N2/P1Q1BPP1/2BR1RK1 w - -  acd 30/62-; acs 2298 ; acn 32843313507; ce 90 ; bm Nd4; pv Nd4 Qxd5; c1 "Houdini 5";
8/8/4p1Pk/1rp1K1p1/4P1P1/1nP2Q2/p2b1P2/8 w - -  acd 52; acs 926 ; acn 6867648159; ce 0 ; bm Qf8+; pv Qf8+ Kxg6 Qg8+ Kh6 Qh8+ Kg6 Qf6+ Kh7 Qe7+ Kh6 Qf6+ Kh7; c1 "Komodo 10";
8/8/4p1Pk/1rp1K1p1/4P1P1/1nP2Q2/p2b1P2/8 w - -  acd 48/90; acs 2469 ; acn 45667648158; ce 14999 ; bm Kf6; pv Kf6 Bxc3+ e5 Bxe5+ Kf7 Rb7+ Qxb7 a1Q g7 Bxg7 Kg8 Nd2 Qb8 Qh1 Qa7 Qa1 Qb7 c4 Qb8 Bh8 Qh2+ Kg6 Qh7+ Kf6 Qxh8+ Ke7 Qxa1 Nb3 Qe5 Kd7 Qb5+ Kd6 Qxc4 Nc5 Qd4+ Kc6 Qxc5+ Kxc5; c1 "Houdini 5";
8/2pN1k2/p4p1p/Pn1R4/3b4/6Pp/1P3K1P/8 w - -  acd 51; acs 837 ; acn 6309293580; ce 0 ; bm Rxd4; pv Rxd4 Nxd4 Nc5 Nc6 Nxa6 Nxa5 Nxc7 Nc4 b3 Ne5 Nd5 Ng4+ Kg1 Ne5 b4 f5 Nf4 Nf3+ Kf2 Nxh2 Nxh3 Ke6 Nf4+ Ke5 Ke2 Kd4 b5 Kc5 Ne6+ Kxb5 Nd4+ Kc5 Nxf5; c1 "Komodo 10";
8/2pN1k2/p4p1p/Pn1R4/3b4/6Pp/1P3K1P/8 w - -  acd 34/69; acs 2590 ; acn 48778830288; ce 144 ; bm Ke1; pv Ke1 Bxb2 Rh5 Bc3+ Ke2 Kg6 Rxh3 Bxa5 Rh4 Bc3 Rc4 a5 Kd3 Bd4 Ra4 Bg1 h3 Nd6 Rxa5 Bh2 g4 Bg3 Rc5 f5 gxf5+ Nxf5 Ke4 Ne7 Ne5+ Kf6 Ng4+ Kg6 Ne3 Bd6 Ra5 Bg3 Nc4 Nc8 Ne5+ Kg5 Nf3+ Kg6 Nd4 Nd6+ Kd3 Bf2; c1 "Houdini 5";
6r1/6r1/2p1k1pp/p1pbP2q/Pp1p1PpP/1P1P2NR/1KPQ3R/8 b - -  acd 42/82; acs 2569 ; acn 45440935634; ce -492 ; bm Qf5; pv Qf5 Nxf5 gxf5 Rg3 h5 Re2 Re8 Re1 Rg6 Qf2 Rh8 Re2 Rg7 Rg1 Re8 Qg3 Ree7 Kb1 Bf3 Ree1 Rd7 Kb2 Bd5 Kc1 Rde7 Qh2 Rg6 Kd2 Re8 Qf2 Rd8 Re2 Rg7 Qg3 Re8 Rge1 Bf3 Rf2 Bd5 Ref1 Rd8 Re2 Re8 Rh2 Rg6 Re1 Bf3 Rg1; c1 "Houdini 5";
5rk1/ppqb2pp/2n1p3/3pP3/2pP4/P1P1BN1Q/2P2PP1/R3K3 b Q -  acd 44; acs 928 ; acn 13064839947; ce 0 ; bm Bc8; pv Bc8 Kd2 Qf7 Rh1 Qf5 Qg3 Ne7 Qh4 Re8 Bg5 Nc6 g4 Qg6 Be3 Bd7 Qh3 Na5 Qh5 Qxh5 Rxh5 Nc6 Ng5 h6 Nh3 Ne7 g5 hxg5 Bxg5 Nf5 Nf4 Kf7 Rh7 Kg8 Rh3 Kf7 Rh1 b6 Rh7 Ba4 Rh3 Bd7 Rh1 Ba4 Rh7 Kg8 Rh3 Kf7 Rh7; c1 "Komodo 10";
5rk1/ppqb2pp/2n1p3/3pP3/2pP4/P1P1BN1Q/2P2PP1/R3K3 b Q -  acd 36/78; acs 2168 ; acn 32490098828; ce 0 ; bm Bc8; pv Bc8 Kd2 Qf7 Rh1 Qf5 Qxf5 Rxf5 Ng1 h6 Ne2 Rf8 Nf4 Bd7 Ng6 Rf7 Rb1 b6 Rh1 Ne7 Nf4 Kh7 Nh3 Kg6 Nf4+ Kh7; c1 "Houdini 5";
5B2/1p1nNp2/8/1P2R3/3p3q/8/p1K1P1Q1/k3b3 w - -  acd 44; acs 1155 ; acn 12327094172; ce 0 ; bm Qe4; pv Qe4 Nxe5 Qxh4 Bxh4 Nf5 d3+ exd3 Nxd3 Bg7+ f6 Nxh4 Nb4+ Kb3 Nd5 Kc2 Nb4+; c1 "Komodo 10";
5B2/1p1nNp2/8/1P2R3/3p3q/8/p1K1P1Q1/k3b3 w - -  acd 35/82+; acs 2565 ; acn 45759566198; ce 890 ; bm Ng6; pv Ng6; c1 "Houdini 5";
4r1k1/pp5p/2p1bR2/2P5/2B1n3/2B2K2/PP5P/8 w - -  acd 46-; acs 1263 ; acn 20973170813; ce 397 ; bm Bxe6+; pv Bxe6+ Rxe6; c1 "Komodo 10";
4r1k1/pp5p/2p1bR2/2P5/2B1n3/2B2K2/PP5P/8 w - -  acd 32/73+; acs 2223 ; acn 50676368076; ce 433 ; bm Bxe6+; pv Bxe6+; c1 "Houdini 5";
4r1k1/1r1np3/1pqp1ppB/p7/2b1P1PQ/2P2P2/P3B2R/3R2K1 w - -  acd 34+; acs 1214 ; acn 14899213883; ce 38 ; bm Be3; pv Be3 Nf8 Bxc4+; c1 "Komodo 10";
4r1k1/1r1np3/1pqp1ppB/p7/2b1P1PQ/2P2P2/P3B2R/3R2K1 w - -  acd 30/80-; acs 2478 ; acn 34465781893; ce 70 ; bm Bxc4+; pv Bxc4+ Qxc4; c1 "Houdini 5";
4K2k/1pQp3p/1R4p1/1P4P1/8/3P3P/1q3r2/8 w - -  acd 46; acs 1169 ; acn 16958091189; ce 0 ; bm Rf6; pv Rf6 Re2+ Kd8 Qxb5 Qc8 Qb4 Kxd7+ Kg7 Qd8 Qc5 Rxg6+ hxg6 Qf6+ Kg8 Qxg6+ Kf8 Qf6+ Kg8 Qg6+; c1 "Komodo 10";
4K2k/1pQp3p/1R4p1/1P4P1/8/3P3P/1q3r2/8 w - -  acd 40/102; acs 2533 ; acn 50785964434; ce 0 ; bm Rf6; pv Rf6 Re2+ Kd8 Qxb5 h4 Qb4 Qxd7 Qa5+ Kc8 Qa8+ Kc7 Re8 Rf7 Qa5+ Kxb7 Qb4+ Kc7 Qa5+ Kb7; c1 "Houdini 5";
3rrnk1/p1n1qpp1/1p5p/2pRP3/2P4P/1P2Q1PB/PB5K/4R3 w - -  acd 38/77; acs 2439 ; acn 38731478308; ce 49 ; bm Bg2; pv Bg2 Nfe6 Rdd1 Rxd1 Rxd1 Rd8 Rd3 Nd4 Bxd4 Qd7 Rd2 cxd4 Qf2 Ne6 Bd5 Qe7 Qe2 Qc5 Qe4 a6 Rf2 Re8 Qf5 Qc7 b4 Nd8 Re2 Ne6 Qe4 Rd8 Kg2 Qe7 a3 a5 Rb2 axb4 axb4 Rc8 Rf2 Rc7 b5 Rc8 Rf1 Rd8 Qd3; c1 "Houdini 5";
3rrnk1/p1n1qpp1/1p5p/2pRP3/2P4P/1P2Q1PB/PB5K/4R3 w - -  acd 36; acs 532 ; acn 5698946495; ce 34 ; bm Bg2; pv Bg2 Nxd5 cxd5 b5 Be4 c4 Qf3 Rc8 d6 Qd7 b4 Ne6 Bc3 Nd8 g4 Ne6 Rf1 Red8 Bb7 Re8 Bxc8 Rxc8 Rd1 a6 Rf1 Rf8 Kg3 Re8 Rf2 Rc8 Qe4 Qa7 Rf1 Qd7 Rd1 Qa7 Qf3 Rd8 Rf1; c1 "Komodo 10";
3r2k1/p1R2ppp/1p6/P1b1PP2/3p4/3R2B1/5PKP/1r6 w - -  acd 36+; acs 1166 ; acn 14744852391; ce 229 ; bm Bh4; pv Bh4 Re8 a6; c1 "Komodo 10";
3r2k1/p1R2ppp/1p6/P1b1PP2/3p4/3R2B1/5PKP/1r6 w - -  acd 32/69+; acs 2478 ; acn 41726356646; ce 269 ; bm Bh4; pv Bh4; c1 "Houdini 5";
2r1rbk1/p1qn2p1/3n1pp1/P1p1p3/1p2P1P1/1N3Q1P/1PP2P2/R1BR1BK1 w - -  acd 35+; acs 1067 ; acn 11348645847; ce 73 ; bm Be3; pv Be3 c4 Nd2; c1 "Komodo 10";
2r1rbk1/p1qn2p1/3n1pp1/P1p1p3/1p2P1P1/1N3Q1P/1PP2P2/R1BR1BK1 w - -  acd 30/66+; acs 2551 ; acn 36447998092; ce 102 ; bm Be3; pv Be3; c1 "Houdini 5";
2r1k1r1/3q4/p1nBpp1p/8/B5p1/4RbK1/PP1Q1P1P/2R5 w - -  acd 35+; acs 1239 ; acn 17747084068; ce 171 ; bm Bb3; pv Bb3 Nd8 Rxc8; c1 "Komodo 10";
2r1k1r1/3q4/p1nBpp1p/8/B5p1/4RbK1/PP1Q1P1P/2R5 w - -  acd 31/74-; acs 2370 ; acn 37752444974; ce 216 ; bm Bb3; pv Bb3 Nd8; c1 "Houdini 5";
2kb4/p7/r1p3p1/p1P2pBp/R2P3P/2K3P1/5P2/8 w - -  acd 39-; acs 1063 ; acn 16554474737; ce 1597 ; bm Bxd8; pv Bxd8 Kxd8; c1 "Komodo 10";
2kb4/p7/r1p3p1/p1P2pBp/R2P3P/2K3P1/5P2/8 w - -  acd 37/70; acs 2569 ; acn 50787319966; ce 1114 ; bm Bxd8; pv Bxd8 Kxd8 Kd3 Kd7 Ke3 Ke6 Kf4 Kd5 Kg5 Ke4 Kxg6 Kd3 Kxf5 Kc3 g4 Kb3 Ra1 Kb2 Rg1 a4 gxh5 a3 h6 a2 h7 a1R Rxa1 Kxa1 h8Q Kb1 Qe5 Ra2 Qe4+ Kc1 Qh1+ Kc2 Qxc6 Rb2 Qe4+ Kb3 Qe3+ Ka4 h5 Rb8 h6 Rf8+ Kg6; c1 "Houdini 5";
2k5/1bp2B2/1b5r/1N1Pp2p/6r1/6B1/1P2RP2/R5K1 b - -  acd 36-; acs 1278 ; acn 11640400127; ce 38 ; bm Rxg3+; pv Rxg3+ Kh2; c1 "Komodo 10";
2k5/1bp2B2/1b5r/1N1Pp2p/6r1/6B1/1P2RP2/R5K1 b - -  acd 31/72; acs 2264 ; acn 39249626926; ce 59 ; bm Rxg3+; pv Rxg3+ Kh2 Rf3 Be6+ Kd8 Ra3 Rxf2+ Rxf2 Bxf2 Rc3 Rh7 Rf3 Bb6 Nc3 Bd4 Rg3 e4 Rg8+ Ke7 Nxe4 Ba6 b4 Bd3 Nc5 Be2 Ne4 Rg7 Rxg7+ Bxg7 Kh3 Bb2 Kh4 Ba3 b5 Bb2 Bf5 Be5 Be6 Bd4 Kg5 Bxb5 Ng3 Kd6 Nf5+; c1 "Houdini 5";
1r6/4k3/r2p2p1/2pR1p1p/2P1pP1P/pPK1P1P1/P7/1B6 b - -  acd 59; acs 739 ; acn 12693138816; ce 189 ; bm Kd7; pv Kd7 Bc2 Ke6 Bd1 Ra7 Bc2 Rab7 Bd1 Rd7 Bc2 Rg7 Bd1 Rb4 Bc2 Rd7 Bd1 Rbb7 Be2 Rd8 Bf1 Kf6 Bh3 Rb4 Bf1 Ke6 Bh3 Rdb8 Bf1 Kd7 Bg2 Kc6 Bf1 R4b7 Bg2 Rd8 Bh3 Ra8 Bf1 Rbb8 Be2 Rb4 Rd1 Rab8 Rd5 R4b7 Bd1 Rd7 Be2 Ra7 Bd1 Rab7 Rd2 Kd7 Rd5 Ke6 Rd2 Ra7 Rd5 Rb4; c1 "Komodo 10";
1r6/4k3/r2p2p1/2pR1p1p/2P1pP1P/pPK1P1P1/P7/1B6 b - -  acd 39/100; acs 2285 ; acn 42388993450; ce 204 ; bm Rxb3+; pv Rxb3+ Kxb3 Rb6+ Kc2 Rb2+ Kc1 Re2 Rd1 Rxe3 Rg1 Rc3+ Kd2 Rxc4 Bc2 d5 Rb1 d4 Kd1 Kd6 Rb6+ Kc7 Rb3 Kc6 Rxa3 Rb4 Kc1 Kd5 Bb3+ c4 Ra5+ Kd6 Ba4 Rb8 Ra6+ Kc5 a3 c3 Rc6+ Kd5 Rc7 d3 Rxc3 Kd4 Rb3 Rc8+ Kd1 Ke3 Rb4 Kf2 Rb2+ Kxg3 Kd2 Kxf4 Bd1 Rd8 a4 g5 hxg5 h4; c1 "Houdini 5";
1k5r/pb3p1p/1q2rp1b/2p5/1pQ1P3/1P3N2/P3BPPP/3R1RK1 w - -  acd 34; acs 1106 ; acn 12163036280; ce 48 ; bm Bd3; pv Bd3 Bf4 Nh4 Rd8 Nf5 Rd7 g3 Be5 Bb1 Bd4 Qe2 Re5 Nxd4 cxd4 Qg4 Rd8 Bd3 f5 exf5 Qc6 f3 Re3 Qh4 Qd6 Kg2 f6 Rf2 Qe7 Bc4 d3 Be6 Ka8 Qc4 h5 Qf4 Re5 Qh4 Kb8 Qxh5; c1 "Komodo 10";
1k5r/pb3p1p/1q2rp1b/2p5/1pQ1P3/1P3N2/P3BPPP/3R1RK1 w - -  acd 30/64-; acs 2530 ; acn 38239370955; ce 64 ; bm Rd5; pv Rd5 Rhe8; c1 "Houdini 5";
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Re: Cranky Walters

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Of the 25, 15 remain unsolved after last night's analysis:

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r4rk1/ppnqp2p/3p2p1/2pP4/P1P2B1P/6P1/1P3PK1/R2Q1R2 b - - bm Rxf4;
r3rnk1/1bq1bpp1/pp2p3/3pP2Q/P4p2/1NNB1R2/1PP4P/2KR4 w - - bm Rg1;
r3kb1r/4Pp2/pn3P2/1pp3B1/2p5/2N3P1/PP3P1P/3RKB1b w kq - bm h4;
r1r3k1/1bq2pp1/p4n1p/1p1npB2/PP6/2P2N2/1BQ2PPP/R3R1K1 b - - bm Nf4;
r1br2k1/7p/p2q1ppB/1p1P4/2P5/5N2/PQ3PPP/4R1K1 w - - bm Ng5;
r1b2rk1/pp3pb1/3q2pp/2nP4/6P1/2P2N2/P1Q1BPP1/2BR1RK1 w - - bm Rd4;
5rk1/ppqb2pp/2n1p3/3pP3/2pP4/P1P1BN1Q/2P2PP1/R3K3 b Q - bm Rxf3;
4r1k1/pp5p/2p1bR2/2P5/2B1n3/2B2K2/PP5P/8 w - - bm Rxe6;
4r1k1/1r1np3/1pqp1ppB/p7/2b1P1PQ/2P2P2/P3B2R/3R2K1 w - - bm Bg7;
4K2k/1pQp3p/1R4p1/1P4P1/8/3P3P/1q3r2/8 w - - bm Qd8;
3rrnk1/p1n1qpp1/1p5p/2pRP3/2P4P/1P2Q1PB/PB5K/4R3 w - - bm Red1;
3r2k1/p1R2ppp/1p6/P1b1PP2/3p4/3R2B1/5PKP/1r6 w - - bm f6;
2r1rbk1/p1qn2p1/3n1pp1/P1p1p3/1p2P1P1/1N3Q1P/1PP2P2/R1BR1BK1 w - - bm Rxd6;
2r1k1r1/3q4/p1nBpp1p/8/B5p1/4RbK1/PP1Q1P1P/2R5 w - - bm h4;
2k5/1bp2B2/1b5r/1N1Pp2p/6r1/6B1/1P2RP2/R5K1 b - - bm h4;
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Re: Cranky Walters

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There is a new test suite by Walter too called ERET. Have you tried analyzing those at longer time?

https://glarean-magazin.ch/2017/03/05/c ... test-eret/

Sample results from my i7-2600K, engines using single core. I am surprised with CDrill's perf, since this engine has no transposition table, no null move pruning, no LMR rated around 1800 on CCRL 40/4.

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Arena report file : eret.rep
Test file         : Eigenmann Rapid Engine Chess.epd
Seconds per Move  : 5

Nr   Engine                      Pts  Total   Rate   RT(s)
1    Stockfish 8                  49    111   0.44   356.0
2    Fizbo 1.9                    40    111   0.36   377.0
3    Fire 5                       33    111   0.30   416.0
4    Andscacs 0.89                32    111   0.29   408.0
5    Hannibal 1.7                 27    111   0.24   435.0
6    NirvanaChess 2.3             24    111   0.22   457.0
7    iCE 3 v658                   18    111   0.16   465.0
8    Deuterium v2017.1.35.350     18    111   0.16   477.0
9    DiscoCheck 5.2.1             18    111   0.16   487.0
10   Hakkapeliitta 3.0            17    111   0.15   475.0
11   Gaviota v1.0                 17    111   0.15   488.0
12   Arasan 19.1                  17    111   0.15   493.0
13   CDrill 1800                  16    111   0.14   482.0
14   AnMon 5.75                   14    111   0.13   490.0
15   Deuterium v2014.3.34.130     14    111   0.13   493.0
16   Rodent II 0.9.64             14    111   0.13   498.0
17   Hermann 2.8                  14    111   0.13   502.0
18   Cheng 4.39                   10    111   0.09   514.0

Rate  = Pts/Total
RT(s) = Rated Time in seconds
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Re: Cranky Walters

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Yes, I have the eret suite. The only one unsolved for me is:
[d]4r1k1/1r1np3/1pqp1ppB/p7/2b1P1PQ/2P2P2/P3B2R/3R2K1 w - - acd 34; acs 1214; bm Be3; c3 "Bg7"; ce 38; id "ERET 084 - Koenigsangriff"; pm Be3; pv Be3 Nf8 Bxc4+;

For all the others, I have a mechanical solution that agrees with the proposed solution.

I have 383 positions from various test suites that he wrote and I have a total of 15 where I did not come up with the same answer as the proposed answer which also gives the best score.
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