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Carl Langan



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PostPost subject: Re: Contemptuous    Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:30 am Reply to topic Reply with quote

Top engines (or dedicated machines) losing to amateurs (and LT is a quite a bit stronger than your regular amateur) is nothing new.

Back in 2001, a book was published by the somewhat humorous name of "A Psychiatrist Matches Wits with Fritz", written by Ernest F. Pecci, MD.

It is a very detailed diagram-filled hard-cover book, with a foreword by none other than Garry Kasparov himself (!), and it covers the author's winning games and strategies against the top program of that time, Fritz. (I have the book, but it is hard to find and not very well-known. It sells for a lot of money on Amazon.)

About 10-15 years before that, when dedicated machines were already giving human opponents a hard time, an obscure A-player showed that it was possible to defeat the computers while giving them Queen odds (!!), by exploiting the machines' horizon effect weakness with slowly built-up kingside attacks that involved opening up the h-file later in the game. An article was written about this in Chess Life magazine (I think) and the moves played in the published games could be reproduced by others.

Anti-computer specialists have always been around. Before engines became really strong (back in the 90's), it was really possible to even defeat them tactically in open games, through various sacrifices that exploited poor king safety.

I believe Lyudmil is doing everyone a favor by publishing his games and related findings. It would be very wrong and detrimental to future progress to assume that exploitable weaknesses don't exist in today's top engines.

Regards,
CL
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Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:22 am
      Re: Contemptuous Joerg Oster Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:36 am
            Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:15 pm
      Re: Contemptuous duncan roberts Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:33 pm
            Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:26 pm
                  Re: Contemptuous Dr.Wael Deeb Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:26 pm
                        Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:23 pm
                              Re: Contemptuous Dr.Wael Deeb Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:03 pm
                  Re: Contemptuous Milos Stanisavljevic Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:39 pm
                  Re: Contemptuous duncan roberts Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:29 pm
                  Re: Contemptuous duncan roberts Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:35 pm
                        Re: Contemptuous M ANSARI Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:20 am
                              Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:56 pm
                                    Re: Contemptuous Kvicala Miroslav Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:51 pm
                                          Re: Contemptuous Kvicala Miroslav Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:10 pm
                              Re: Contemptuous Robert Flesher Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:59 pm
                                    Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:19 pm
                                          Re: Contemptuous M ANSARI Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:09 pm
                                                Re: Contemptuous Kvicala Miroslav Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:32 pm
                                                      Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:42 pm
                                                            Re: Contemptuous Robert Tournevisse Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:55 pm
                                                                  Re: Contemptuous Kvicala Miroslav Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:22 pm
                                                Re: Contemptuous Kvicala Miroslav Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:36 pm
                                          Re: Contemptuous Robert Flesher Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:26 pm
                                                Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:32 pm
                                                      Re: Contemptuous M ANSARI Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:31 pm
                                                            Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:01 am
                                                                  Re: Contemptuous M ANSARI Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:23 am
                                                                        Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:20 am
                                                                              Re: Contemptuous Kvicala Miroslav Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:08 pm
                                                                                    Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:15 pm
                                                                        Re: Contemptuous Carl Langan Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:30 am
                                                                              Re: Contemptuous M ANSARI Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:12 am
                                                                                    Re: Contemptuous Kvicala Miroslav Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:35 am
                                                                                    Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:29 am
                                                                              Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:27 am
      Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:51 pm
      Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:19 pm
      Re: Contemptuous Jarkko Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:41 am
      Re: Contemptuous duncan roberts Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:44 am
      Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:12 pm
            Re: Contemptuous Carl Langan Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:47 am
                  Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:17 pm
                        Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:40 pm
      Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:45 pm
      Re: Contemptuous Lucas Braesch Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:39 pm
            Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:32 pm
                  Re: Contemptuous Carl Langan Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:41 am
                        Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:14 pm
                              Re: Contemptuous Carl Langan Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:37 pm
                                    Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:14 pm
            Re: Contemptuous Carl Langan Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:01 am
      Re: Contemptuous Robert Hyatt Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:20 am
            Re: Contemptuous Lucas Braesch Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:31 am
            Re: Contemptuous Lyudmil Tsvetkov Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:22 am
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