SF 111113 vs. Houdini 3 match, TC 30 min + 30 sec

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Re: SF 111113 vs. Houdini 4 match, TC 30 min + 30 sec

Post by ouachita »

Andrey,
Is this the SF DD version?
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Re: SF 111113 vs. Houdini 4 match, TC 30 min + 30 sec

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ouachita wrote:Andrey,
Is this the SF DD version?
No,
http://abrok.eu/stockfish/9763c69fa5683 ... _sse42.exe
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Re: SF 111113 vs. Houdini 4 match, TC 30 min + 30 sec

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majortom wrote:TC 30'+30"

i7-3960x
1-core
ponder off
colours reversed openings
1024 mb hash
average games length ~2 h 35 m

220 games with Houdini 4:

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 Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

1 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2964   20  20   522    53.9 %   2936   53.8 %
2 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2962   31  31   220    49.8 %   2964   54.1 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2917   27  27   302    43.4 %   2964   53.6 %

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1 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2964  522 (+141,=281,-100), 53.9 %
2 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2962  220 (+ 50,=119,- 51), 49.8 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2917  302 (+ 50,=162,- 90), 43.4 %
Games

To be continued...
You see how once you've changed the openings to be more representative Houdini 4 caught up. Soon it will become better. ;)
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Re: SF 111113 vs. Houdini 4 match, TC 30 min + 30 sec

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Yes, they are within MOE now.

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Re: SF 111113 vs. Houdini 4 match, TC 30 min + 30 sec

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Milos wrote:You see how once you've changed the openings to be more representative Houdini 4 caught up. Soon it will become better. ;)
May be you are right. But, and with the previous openings Houdini had just 11 ELO below SF. More games - more accuracy. BTW Houdini has 50% score now :wink:
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Re: SF 111113 vs. Houdini 4 match, TC 30 min + 30 sec

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While I have wrote, Houdini has lost and it still below SF.

TC 30'+30"

i7-3960x
1-core
ponder off
colours reversed openings
1024 mb hash
average games length ~2 h 35 m

247 games with Houdini 4:

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 Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

1 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2963   20  20   549    53.7 %   2937   52.5 %
2 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2962   30  30   247    49.8 %   2963   51.0 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2917   27  27   302    43.4 %   2963   53.6 %

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1 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2963  549 (+151,=288,-110), 53.7 %
2 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2962  247 (+ 60,=126,- 61), 49.8 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2917  302 (+ 50,=162,- 90), 43.4 %
Games

To be continued...
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Re: SF 111113 vs. Houdini 4 match, TC 30 min + 30 sec

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TC 30'+30"

i7-3960x
1-core
ponder off
colours reversed openings
1024 mb hash
average games length ~2 h 35 m

271 games with Houdini 4:

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 Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

1 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2962   29  29   271    50.0 %   2962   51.3 %
2 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2962   20  20   573    53.5 %   2938   52.5 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2916   27  27   302    43.4 %   2962   53.6 %

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1 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2962  271 (+ 66,=139,- 66), 50.0 %
2 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2962  573 (+156,=301,-116), 53.5 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2916  302 (+ 50,=162,- 90), 43.4 %
Games

To be continued...
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Re: SF 111113 vs. Houdini 4 match, TC 30 min + 30 sec

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TC 30'+30"

i7-3960x
1-core
ponder off
colours reversed openings
1024 mb hash
average games length ~2 h 35 m

625 games played:

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 Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

1 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2962   19  19   625    53.4 %   2938   52.3 %
2 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2960   27  27   323    49.7 %   2962   51.1 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2915   27  27   302    43.4 %   2962   53.6 %

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1 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2962  625 (+170,=327,-128), 53.4 %
2 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2960  323 (+ 78,=165,- 80), 49.7 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2915  302 (+ 50,=162,- 90), 43.4 %
Games

To be continued...
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Re: SF 111113 vs. Houdini 4 match, TC 30 min + 30 sec

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TC 30'+30"

i7-3960x
1-core
ponder off
colours reversed openings
1024 mb hash
average games length ~2 h 35 m

643 games played:

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 Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

1 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2962   19  18   643    53.3 %   2938   52.6 %
2 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2959   26  26   341    49.6 %   2962   51.6 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2915   27  27   302    43.4 %   2962   53.6 %

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1 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2962  643 (+174,=338,-131), 53.3 %
2 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2959  341 (+ 81,=176,- 84), 49.6 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2915  302 (+ 50,=162,- 90), 43.4 %
Games

To be continued...
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Re: SF 111113 vs. Houdini 4 match, TC 30 min + 30 sec

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majortom wrote:TC 30'+30"

i7-3960x
1-core
ponder off
colours reversed openings
1024 mb hash
average games length ~2 h 35 m

643 games played:

Code: Select all

 Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

1 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2962   19  18   643    53.3 %   2938   52.6 %
2 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2959   26  26   341    49.6 %   2962   51.6 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2915   27  27   302    43.4 %   2962   53.6 %

Code: Select all

1 Stockfish 111113 64 SSE4.2     : 2962  643 (+174,=338,-131), 53.3 %
2 Houdini 4 Pro x64              : 2959  341 (+ 81,=176,- 84), 49.6 %
3 Houdini 3 Pro x64              : 2915  302 (+ 50,=162,- 90), 43.4 %
Games

To be continued...
Thanks for the test, Andrey. It's important to see the results at these longer TC.