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Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3)
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Sedat Canbaz



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PostPost subject: Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3)    Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:15 am Reply to topic Reply with quote
Uri Blass wrote:
Houdini wrote:
Tennison wrote:
T3 settings and Z settings seems (as in Sedat Rating List) a little bit better than original. A small plus to Z here but need more games to confirm because so close !

If you want to make the claims above, you need to play more games. For the moment everything is buried under the tower of statistical uncertainty.
For T3 and Z settings there is only one valid conclusion after 1000 games: they are not significantly different from the default settings.

On the Rybka Forum I published the results obtained with "z", "s" and your "T4" settings in 16´000 game matches against the default Houdini 2.0c.
Here are the results against the standard Houdini 2.0c.
- "s" scored 7797-8203 (38% draws), -8 Elo (+/- 4 Elo)
- "z" scored 7922-8078 (39% draws), -4 Elo (+/- 4 Elo)
- "T4" scored 7914-8086 (40% draws), -4 Elo (+/- 4 Elo)
Again, the only conclusion can be that these settings change very little to the objective strength of the engine.


No

The only conclusion is that they change very little in the time control that you tested.

I read that with longer time control things are different

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?tid=25226

+172,=240,-113 seems convincing but we are going to have 1000 games at 5+3 blitz time control.



Agreed...

Just i'd like to add we need to concentrate on game results with:
-Latest fast CPU machines (recommended engines to be tested at least with 6 cores, more cores even better...)
-Popular time controls (not recommended ultra fast time controls)
-The strongest modern openings (the winning percentage should be min 40% Blacks;min 50% Whites)
-For reliable rating min 1000 games is required

Btw,i have a such testing with the above conditions:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-rating/


Best Wishes,
Sedat
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Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Ben Tennison Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:15 am
      Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Ben Tennison Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:37 pm
            Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Ben Tennison Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:16 pm
                  Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Ben Tennison Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:14 am
                        Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Ben Tennison Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:53 am
                              Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Ben Tennison Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:01 am
                                    Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Ben Tennison Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:08 am
                                    Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Robert Houdart Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:53 am
                                          Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Ben Tennison Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:03 am
                                                Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) George Speight Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:44 am
                                          Re: Houdini 2.0: settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3). Jesús Muñoz Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:46 am
                                          Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Uri Blass Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:55 am
                                                Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Robert Houdart Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:01 am
                                                Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Sedat Canbaz Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:15 am
                                                      Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Robert Houdart Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:35 am
                                                            Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Sedat Canbaz Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:54 am
                                                                  Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Robert Houdart Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:12 pm
                                                                        Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Sedat Canbaz Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:27 pm
                                                                              Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Robert Houdart Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:02 pm
                                                                                    Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Sedat Canbaz Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:30 pm
                                                            Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) George Speight Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:57 am
                                                                  Re: Houdini 2.0 : Settings (Z, T3, Baracuda, Baracuda T3) Kai Laskos Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:41 pm
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