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I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship?
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Julien MARCEL



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PostPost subject: Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship    Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 7:14 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote
Don wrote:

I don't agree with the philosophical tool of pushing it to the limit. I'm not refuting your argument but what my understand of what Kant said from your description. Is eating good for you? Of course it is, you will die if you don't eat. Push it to the limit and you will die of gluttony in one day. Some medications can save your life - but overdoes on them and they will kill you.


Kant's tool was used in Critique of Pure Reason and only meant to be used in the field of morality. Now you can extend the use if this tool to fields that are close to morality (politics, law, human sciences, and so on...) but it probably won't be a good idea with hard sciences. Smile As for myself I only use it when I need to assess my political or moral opinions or other people's.

Don wrote:

For example if I test a position using Houdini and then I post the output, it's no longer personal use because I am making the analysis public.

Yes, it's still personal use: you're the only one using the software (regarding the software's output: see above discussion). Now if you have a penniless club player of your friends who asks you to borrow your computer and Houdini to prepare for his next tournament, this is not a personal use of the software anymore. Although there is a tolerance, as yet stated: the "family circle". Usually that will mean at your place and with your relatives.

EDIT: BTW, In forgot something VERY important that simplifies the debate even more: only the "oeuvres de l'esprit" (the mind's works) are protected by the law, and every time a court (at least in France) had to decide if a work automatically produced by a computer could be protected by copyright law they decided against it. I remember for instance, when I was in law school, an example that had amused me: a software that could generate new tunes automatically. Those tunes can't be protected, because they're not produced by a human mind. Obviously it's the same thing for a chess engine's output.

This might change the day we create an artificial consciousness: this entity could claim a legal identity and thus get its work protected.
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I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship? Jorge Pichard Sat May 12, 2012 12:15 pm
      Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Julien MARCEL Sat May 12, 2012 12:50 pm
            Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Gabriel LEPERLIER Sat May 12, 2012 1:07 pm
                  Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Albert Silver Sat May 12, 2012 2:35 pm
                        Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Gabriel LEPERLIER Sat May 12, 2012 2:46 pm
                              Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Albert Silver Sat May 12, 2012 3:30 pm
                                    Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Robert Houdart Sat May 12, 2012 3:59 pm
                                          Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Chris Whittington Sat May 12, 2012 4:10 pm
                                                Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Dr.Wael Deeb Sat May 12, 2012 4:53 pm
                                          Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Mike Scheidl Sat May 12, 2012 4:36 pm
                                          Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship gerold daniels Sat May 12, 2012 5:02 pm
                                                Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Gabriel LEPERLIER Sat May 12, 2012 5:04 pm
                                                      Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Chris Whittington Sat May 12, 2012 5:14 pm
                                                            Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Julien MARCEL Sat May 12, 2012 5:34 pm
                                                                  Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Miguel A. Ballicora Sat May 12, 2012 5:50 pm
                                                                  Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Chris Whittington Sat May 12, 2012 6:15 pm
                                                                        Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Julien MARCEL Sat May 12, 2012 6:30 pm
                                                                              Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Chris Whittington Sat May 12, 2012 6:47 pm
                                                                                    Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Julien MARCEL Sat May 12, 2012 6:54 pm
                                                                                          Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Gabriel LEPERLIER Sat May 12, 2012 6:59 pm
                                                                                          Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Graham Banks Sat May 12, 2012 7:04 pm
                                                                              Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Don Dailey Sat May 12, 2012 7:04 pm
                                                                                    Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Julien MARCEL Sat May 12, 2012 7:14 pm
                                                                                    Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Chris Whittington Sat May 12, 2012 7:34 pm
                                                                                          Re: I don't see the analysis of Houdini in this Championship Julien MARCEL Sat May 12, 2012 7:38 pm
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