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Julien MARCEL
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 Post subject: Re: Elo Increase per Doubling Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:54 pm |
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| Adam Hair wrote: |
| JuLieN wrote: |
Thanks Adam, very interesting!  You're becoming a chess stats specialist!
A suggestion: could you make a tournament using "max depth" parameters to see what the Elo delta is when searching for 1 ply, 2 plies, 3 plies... 15 plies, etc... UCI engines have a "search depth x" command, and WB ones have probably an equivalent, so given time and methodology that could be an interesting experiment. I've been willing to do that with Prédateur, but I always end up using my computer time to test new versions than making such experiments... |
Hi Julien,
I have some partial self-test data for Fruit 2.1 and Houdini 1.03 that I can post when I get back home. I believe that I tested Fruit from depth 4 to depth 12, and Houdini from depth 4 to depth 16. I am doing some testing at the moment with IvanHoe so that I can prove a point, but I might drop that and do something more useful to everyone, such as measuring the Elo delta for several engines as the number of plies increase.
Adam |
Nothing urgent, so take your time and do that when you want, but yes that would be very interesting
Btw, for such experiments we should add a setting in our engines to turn off the quiescent search when we reach the horizon, because my experience is that QS kind of leverage the tactical strength.
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Adam Hair |
Mon May 07, 2012 11:40 am |
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Julien MARCEL |
Mon May 07, 2012 12:04 pm |
| Re: Elo Increase per Doubling |
Adam Hair |
Mon May 07, 2012 4:48 pm |
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Julien MARCEL |
Mon May 07, 2012 4:54 pm |
| Re: Elo Increase per Doubling |
Adam Hair |
Mon May 07, 2012 8:50 pm |
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Julien MARCEL |
Mon May 07, 2012 9:00 pm |
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Mark Pearce |
Thu May 10, 2012 4:43 pm |
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H.G.Muller |
Mon May 07, 2012 12:13 pm |
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Michel Van den Bergh |
Mon May 07, 2012 2:01 pm |
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Adam Hair |
Mon May 07, 2012 5:12 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Mon May 07, 2012 6:40 pm |
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Robert Wagner Campos |
Tue May 08, 2012 12:38 am |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 3:32 am |
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Adam Hair |
Tue May 08, 2012 10:02 am |
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Julien MARCEL |
Tue May 08, 2012 10:55 am |
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Adam Hair |
Tue May 08, 2012 8:08 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 11:29 am |
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Kai Laskos |
Tue May 08, 2012 11:59 am |
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Adam Hair |
Tue May 08, 2012 8:13 pm |
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Kai Laskos |
Tue May 08, 2012 10:21 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 10:52 pm |
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Adam Hair |
Tue May 08, 2012 11:14 pm |
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Kai Laskos |
Wed May 09, 2012 12:20 am |
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Adam Hair |
Wed May 09, 2012 2:44 am |
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H.G.Muller |
Wed May 09, 2012 8:05 am |
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Adam Hair |
Wed May 09, 2012 5:12 pm |
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Larry Kaufman |
Thu May 10, 2012 3:11 am |
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Don Dailey |
Thu May 10, 2012 5:03 am |
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Larry Kaufman |
Thu May 10, 2012 5:19 am |
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Don Dailey |
Thu May 10, 2012 12:43 pm |
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Peter Österlund |
Thu May 10, 2012 4:59 pm |
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Julien MARCEL |
Thu May 10, 2012 5:09 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Thu May 10, 2012 5:41 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Thu May 10, 2012 5:46 pm |
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Ed Schroder |
Tue May 08, 2012 12:09 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 12:10 pm |
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Ed Schroder |
Tue May 08, 2012 12:28 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 12:36 pm |
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Ed Schroder |
Tue May 08, 2012 1:15 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 2:37 pm |
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Julien MARCEL |
Tue May 08, 2012 3:15 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 6:15 pm |
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Peter Österlund |
Tue May 08, 2012 8:06 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 8:25 pm |
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Peter Österlund |
Tue May 08, 2012 9:00 pm |
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Julien MARCEL |
Tue May 08, 2012 9:02 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 9:06 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Wed May 09, 2012 4:26 pm |
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Peter Österlund |
Wed May 09, 2012 4:52 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Wed May 09, 2012 5:19 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Thu May 10, 2012 1:41 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Thu May 10, 2012 4:52 pm |
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Adam Hair |
Thu May 10, 2012 9:07 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Thu May 10, 2012 10:55 pm |
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Adam Hair |
Fri May 11, 2012 12:46 am |
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Adam Hair |
Fri May 11, 2012 1:06 am |
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Don Dailey |
Wed May 09, 2012 5:00 pm |
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Adam Hair |
Tue May 08, 2012 9:05 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 9:18 pm |
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Adam Hair |
Tue May 08, 2012 11:26 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Wed May 09, 2012 2:50 am |
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Adam Hair |
Tue May 15, 2012 3:17 am |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 6:23 pm |
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Ed Schroder |
Tue May 08, 2012 12:18 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 12:25 pm |
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Don Dailey |
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Robert Hyatt |
Tue May 08, 2012 3:36 pm |
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Don Dailey |
Tue May 08, 2012 5:32 pm |
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Daniel Shawul |
Fri May 11, 2012 5:48 pm |
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Don Dailey |
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Julien MARCEL |
Fri May 11, 2012 6:52 pm |
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