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open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control
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Bram Mourik



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PostPost subject: Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont    Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 5:29 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

Uri Blass wrote:
beram wrote:
Don wrote:
Jouni wrote:
I have feeling 200 games was overkill. In first 100 games SF won 52-48 and last 100 it won 50,5-49,5. Did it give any new information to us, I doubt..


I expected Stockfish to win this match because it was longer time control. A faster match Ivanhoe would have won and a really fast match Ivanhoe would have won big.


Dear Don, predicting match results is not your strong point
When you look at results of Ivanhoe 9.46h CCRL 4/40 it scores 46,7 % against Stockfish 2.2.2
Ivanhoe 9.46h CCRL 40/40, it scores 45,1%
So conclusively, at shorter time control, Ivanhoe looses much clearer against Stockfish !

grts Bram


CCRL 40/4 are with 6 cpu and not with 4 cpu so they are not relevant for this discussion because I believe that stockfish earns more from more cpu's

I believe 40/4 with 6 cpu's is also not what Don meant by a faster match.
He probably thought about something like 40 moves/1 minute with 4 cpu when really fast match with 4 cpu's is probably something like 40 moves/10 seconds)

Uri

Well perhaps this data is more of your liking: Stockfisch - Ivanhoe at ultrafast TC: + 81 = 120 - 67
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42102&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=ivanhoe+stockfish

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      pal larkin Joined: 15 Feb 2010
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:53 am    Post subject: 800 10-sec games: RobboLito - IvanHoe - Stockfish      
         This match was basically to test if the new JA 2.2.2 sse4.2 "Intel" compile would no longer lose on time.  Well, in its 536 games there were 8 losses on time by Stockfish.  I do not know if that (1.5%) would be considered good or bad.  I guess there is still at least a small problem since neither of the others had any time losses.
 
           The time-control was game in 10 seconds plus 1 second per move on Intel core I7 920 at 2.66GHz using 4 cores HT off; Win 7 64 Home Premium; 6G RAM; pc doing nothing but the match while a game is being played.

           Each engine used its default settings; no large pages; no end-game tablebases; 512 hash each; 4 cores each; ponder off.  The openings are played using random choices from the "top200.pgn" created by Sedat Canbaz as part of his "perfect_2011" opening book; each opening is played as Black and White by each engine.
 
           The below results are adjusted to change 5 of the 8 losses (3 v Robbo; 2 v Ivan) from losses to draws based on the evals of the final positions.  The original result remains in the pgn which can be downloaded below.
 
           The surprise for me was that Stockfish defeated both Ivanhoe and RobboLito in their head-to-head matches, and came a close 2nd overall in these super-fast games; RobboLito beating IvanHoe was not expected either.
 
                 Engine                              Pts        RobboLito 0.10        Stockfish 2.2.2          IvanHoe999946h
         1    RobboLito 0.10 SMP x64    279.0                                      + 71 = 123 - 74      + 51 = 191 - 26
         2    Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42    276.5    + 74 = 123 - 71                                        + 81 = 120 - 67
         3    IvanHoe999946h x64        248.5    + 26 = 191 - 51         +67 = 120 - 81

                           Games here...    http://www.datafilehost.com/download-dccf8772.html
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                  Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Jouni Uski Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:04 pm
                        open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:38 pm
                              Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont gerold daniels Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:17 am
                                    open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:23 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:24 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:25 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:26 am
            open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:29 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:54 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:55 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:55 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:57 am
            open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:59 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:58 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:59 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:00 am
            open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:02 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:08 pm
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:09 pm
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:10 pm
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:12 pm
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:14 pm
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:15 pm
            open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:18 pm
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:46 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:47 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:50 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:52 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:55 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:56 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:57 am
            open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:00 am
                  Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Bram Mourik Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:39 pm
                        open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:38 am
                        open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:36 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:07 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:09 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:10 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:11 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:12 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:13 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:15 am
            open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:19 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:17 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:18 am
      open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:19 am
            open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:33 am
                  Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont George Speight Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:03 am
                        open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:36 pm
                              Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont George Speight Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:27 am
                                    open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:11 am
                  Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Jouni Uski Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:04 am
                        open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:41 pm
                        Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Don Dailey Fri May 04, 2012 3:54 pm
                              Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Bram Mourik Sat May 05, 2012 8:43 am
                                    Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Uri Blass Sat May 05, 2012 5:11 pm
                                          Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Bram Mourik Sat May 05, 2012 5:29 pm
                              open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Sun May 06, 2012 12:29 am
                                    Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Don Dailey Sun May 06, 2012 1:05 am
                                          Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Jesús Muñoz Sun May 06, 2012 4:45 pm
                                    Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Ernest Bonnem Sun May 06, 2012 3:35 pm
                                          open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Sun May 06, 2012 6:54 pm
                  Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont gerold daniels Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:54 pm
                        open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:55 pm
                              Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont gerold daniels Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:51 pm
                  open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-control pal larkin Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:20 pm
                        Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Matthias Gemuh Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:05 pm
                              Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Gabriel LEPERLIER Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:16 pm
                              open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:06 am
                        Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Ignacio Garcia Thu May 03, 2012 1:51 am
                  Re: open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont Ylich Carlos Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:56 pm
                        open source battle IvanHoe v Stockfish at long time-cont pal larkin Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:13 am
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