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Daniel Shawul



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PostPost subject: Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes    Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:00 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote
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Shawul,

Your messages are very impolite for someone who just takes a look in computerchess.

To me it seems that you and Srdja have not much understanding on what a vector processor is and that you have to do everything with just a few simple operations as anything else is slow on it.

I don't like discussing with people with a condescending tone even if they are right (I am not saying you are). I should have stoped discussion with you earlier
if I haven't decided to show courtesy. So if I come off as too impolite I apologize but you should look in the mirror too.
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Now Srdja, if i google for what he's doing in reality, he's excused. Seems browsing a tad on the internet is his core job.

See above...
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Your ideas about storage are far away from reality.
YBW is an algorithm, it doesn't dictate your datastructure.

At vector processing you need creativity, away from the CPU datastructures, away from the cut'n pasting, to achieve what you want to achieve.

FYI the fast assembler engines from the 90s and before didn't store much either, nor did deep blue, nor did hydra.

It seems you don't have the IQ nor practice to achieve simplistic vectorprocessing in fact.

Shhh...I belive I have done enough vector processing aside from chess to quench my curisoity. But I don't
feel the need to explain myself to you..
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Sure it's a lot of work, but not even the move generator you manage to get going.

Haha.good one.. my approach works as intended. And I know why I want to avoid alpha-beta stuff when I started..
If you have a solution for it, explain so we can benefit. But so far nothing has come out.
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Vincent

p.s. Maybe google for Diepeveen + Wagstaff to enlarge your understanding that there are things beyond computerchess where GPU's are everything

Vincent, intimidation is not gonna work. I for one hope these weird math guys stop kepping the cluster busy computing prime numbers.
I know there are uses for it for security and whatever but still..

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p.s.2 for the non-beginners - the only problem to solve on GPU's is not the move generator, it's how to get an efficient SMP going. Efficient in SPEEDUP of course.

p.s.3 but most importantly you seem to fail to understand that at vectorprocessors you need to STREAM to get things done quickly

Ok vincent please explain your methodology. I have always enjoyed your posts in the past so I would like to keep it that way.
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uct on gpu Daniel Shawul Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:52 am
      Re: uct on gpu Srdja Matovic Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:17 am
      Re: uct on gpu Srdja Matovic Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:45 am
            Re: uct on gpu Daniel Shawul Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:00 pm
                  Re: uct on gpu Srdja Matovic Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:44 pm
                        Re: uct on gpu Daniel Shawul Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:28 pm
                              Re: uct on gpu Srdja Matovic Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:04 pm
                                    Re: uct on gpu Daniel Shawul Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:53 pm
                  Re: uct on gpu david nash Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:42 am
                        Re: uct on gpu Daniel Shawul Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:26 pm
      Re: uct on gpu Daniel Shawul Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:30 pm
      100x speed up Daniel Shawul Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:02 pm
            Re: 100x speed up Robert Hyatt Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:13 pm
                  Re: 100x speed up Daniel Shawul Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:24 pm
                        Re: 100x speed up Robert Hyatt Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:35 pm
                              Re: 100x speed up Daniel Shawul Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:11 pm
                                    Table Daniel Shawul Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:51 pm
                                    Re: 100x speed up Robert Hyatt Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:36 pm
                                          Re: 100x speed up Daniel Shawul Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:21 pm
      Re: uct on gpu Daniel Shawul Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:08 pm
      uct for chess Daniel Shawul Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:30 pm
            Re: uct for chess Karlo Bala Jr. Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:14 pm
                  Re: uct for chess Daniel Shawul Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:13 am
                        Re: uct for chess Karlo Bala Jr. Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:52 pm
            Re: uct for chess Srdja Matovic Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:08 pm
                  Re: uct for chess Daniel Shawul Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:43 pm
                        Re: uct for chess Daniel Shawul Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:21 am
                        Re: uct for chess Srdja Matovic Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:56 am
                              Re: uct for chess Daniel Shawul Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:46 pm
                                    Re: uct for chess Srdja Matovic Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:00 pm
                        Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Srdja Matovic Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:04 pm
                              Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Daniel Shawul Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:01 pm
                                    Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Vincent Diepeveen Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:43 pm
                                          Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Vincent Diepeveen Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:01 pm
                                                Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Daniel Shawul Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:01 pm
                                                      Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Vincent Diepeveen Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:59 am
                                                            Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Vincent Diepeveen Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:04 am
                                                            Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Daniel Shawul Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:40 am
                                                                  Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Vincent Diepeveen Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:07 pm
                                                                        Re: uct for chess - MCS, YBW and 32 bit move gen Srdja Matovic Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:37 pm
                                                                              Re: uct for chess - MCS, YBW and 32 bit move gen Vincent Diepeveen Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:39 pm
                                                                                    Re: uct for chess - MCS, YBW and 32 bit move gen Srdja Matovic Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:53 pm
                                                                        Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Daniel Shawul Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:18 pm
                                                                              Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Vincent Diepeveen Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:13 pm
                                                                                    Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Daniel Shawul Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:00 pm
                              Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Vincent Diepeveen Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:33 pm
                                    Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Srdja Matovic Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:30 pm
                                          Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Vincent Diepeveen Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:54 am
                                          Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Vincent Diepeveen Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:45 pm
                              Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Srdja Matovic Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:38 am
                                    Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Vincent Diepeveen Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:13 pm
                                          Re: uct for chess - move gen speedup by vector datatypes Srdja Matovic Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:43 pm
                                                Re: uct for chess - move gen performance killers Srdja Matovic Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:45 pm
            intrinsic popcnt Daniel Shawul Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:21 am
                  Re: intrinsic popcnt Daniel Shawul Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:50 am
                        Re: intrinsic popcnt Robert Hyatt Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:12 pm
      Re: uct on gpu Vincent Diepeveen Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:14 pm
            Re: uct on gpu Daniel Shawul Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:27 pm
                  Re: uct on gpu Vincent Diepeveen Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:17 pm
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