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Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves
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Uri Blass



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PostPost subject: Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves    Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:40 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

zamar wrote:
Hi Pio,

As others have pointed out the idea is already well known.

However personally I think that the total number of moves in a position is not a good metric, because it stays pretty constant during the middle-game.

The more interesting metric IMO would be "the number of reasonable moves" / position. By a reasonable move I mean a move where evaluation doesn't drop more than say 30cp compared to the best move.
But the obvious problem with this approach is the huge additional computing cost, so... likely we are just better off by extending checks, singular moves and pawn endgames Smile


I do not think that it is a good metric and the problem is that a move that is 0.4 pawn weaker than the best move or even more than it may be the best move with deeper search so I cannot decide to prune it and I need to search it.

If you need to search a move then it makes the search more complex and I do not see the logic of ignoring it completely in calculating complexity.

Maybe you can consider it with smaller weight because you expect to waste less time on the search on it but you should count all moves(maybe not with the same weight).
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Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Pio Korinth Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:32 pm
      Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Daniel Shawul Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:26 am
      Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Heiner Marxen Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:39 pm
      Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves H.G.Muller Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:52 pm
            Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Stefano Gemma Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:01 am
                  Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves H.G.Muller Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:53 am
                        Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Pio Korinth Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:28 pm
      Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Laszlo Gaspar Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:26 pm
            Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Álvaro Begué Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:16 pm
                  Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Karlo Bala Jr. Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:49 pm
                        Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Álvaro Begué Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:02 pm
                              Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Pio Korinth Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:48 pm
                                    Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Pio Korinth Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:52 pm
      Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Joona Kiiski Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:18 am
            Re: Counting depth as a function of number of legal moves Uri Blass Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:40 pm
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